“A new beta release of red hat linux, code-named Limbo, hit FTP servers earlier this month, giving users a first look at what is likely to become Version 8.0 of Red Hat Inc.’s most popular Linux distribution.” Read the preview at eWeek. OSNews also had a preview of Limbo recently.
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“New in Limbo are tools for adjusting display, mouse, keyboard and sound card settings, among others ”
Anyone know if they included a way to easily set up for mouse wheel scrolling, and all of those buttons on the optical Microsoft Intellimice?
on rh7.3 my scroll wheel works, i have an intellimouse explorer
i havent tried the other buttons, i dont use them for anything other than games so there hasnt been the need to try it out
If you select “Microsoft Intellimouse” during installation, the wheel works on *many* apps – *many,* not all. This is probably a symptom of the lack of uniformity everyone complains about, but I’ve used the wheel just fine in Enigma, Valhalla, and Limbo.
Looks like the resolution-changing apps are finally creeping in. What’s the next item on the whine list?
Funny that it takes them this long to include an easy way to switch resolutions.
I was going to download this thing, but read access is denied on the ftp directory. Are they trying to limit the number of people that download it?
I’ve seen some screen shots. It looks pretty good. I am impressed you can change the resolution so easily. They are getting there
But really, how ofter do you change your resolution?
Apparantly the ‘mouse responsiveness’ has still not been solved as the author writes. Compared to MS windows, a big problem for the GUIs on linux, is that they feel ‘slow’…
I think the limbo dir on the ftp site is closed because they going to put another BETA on it, until that time use a mirror like dl.xs4all.nl or something to got the old one.or wait a moment and wait for the new one 😉 it should be even better
Am I the only one having this problem?
FILE NOT FOUND in all these servers:
– ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
North America:
– ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ – ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/redhat/l…
– ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo…
– ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
– ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/limbo/
– ftp://ftp.shuttleamerica.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (also rsync access)
– ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
Europe:
– ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/li…
– ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
– ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
– ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/site/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
– ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/beta/limbo/ (http and also rsync access)
– ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta… (also rsync access)
– ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
What’s goin on? I can log into the rest of redhat directories (valhalla, pensacola, …), all but limbo. It appears to me like they have left limbo for heaven or hell.
Does it change the resolution on the fly or have to log out and restart the X-Server and log back in again?
downloading at a 20KB/s rate, 10hours left! I guess that when I finish downloading this one, redhat will have released another beta, it’s ok.
like, ‘found a new baby’.
Try ‘Gnome Control Center -> Mouse’
Or the ‘Mouse’ program in KDE
Like all things Linux its endlessly adjustable.
If you need somthing fast and very easy to use
and configure see xfce.org.
By fast I mean snappy on a P166!
ftp://ftp.ultranet.com/pub0/b/basenji/public_html/fun0500/limbo3.j…
ftp://ftp.ultranet.com/pub0/b/basenji/public_html/fun0500/limbo2.j…
ftp://ftp.ultranet.com/pub0/b/basenji/public_html/fun0500/limbo1.j…
BITE HER!!!
wtf is ur point with this anyway ?
anyway, looks like a promising BETA, im looking forward to its official release.
I wonder if it plays a bit nicer with orinicco wavelan then it used to …
oh well
Yake Care
Kevin
wtf is the matter with u, mr obvious? what a point yours.
But really, how ofter do you change your resolution?
That’s not the point. They want to bring over noobies, and they like the sound of the mouse clicking.
Looks like the resolution-changing apps are finally creeping in. What’s the next item on the whine list?
APT on RPM in Red Hat, mwuahahaha. Since Debian is considering implementing support form RPM 3.0 and LSB pushing it, Red Hat should really consider something like APT. Its security issues problem is kinda lame…
Apparantly the ‘mouse responsiveness’ has still not been solved as the author writes. Compared to MS windows, a big problem for the GUIs on linux, is that they feel ‘slow’…
Buy a Nvidia card, get the drivers, and wave goodbye to that problem (and also, buy RAM). But this is a problem of XFree86, and they have been fixing it gradually, and they are doing good.
Does it change the resolution on the fly or have to log out and restart the X-Server and log back in again?
Most likely on the fly. If Mandrake could do it, Red Hat could.
I’ve been unable to find a mirror and the RedHat site refuses FTP connections. Anyone know where I can get the ISO’s?
The reason you guys can not get Limbo is because Redhat has closed access. Which is RedHats way of saying they’re about to release a new ISO (beta2)
Stay tuned kids
The problem here stems from the fact that X is not multithreaded. In Windows and BeOS, there is a seperate mouse update thread that runs at extremely high priority. Since it has to do so little (read a few registers and write a few registers) it can keep the mouse moving smoothly even under load. On Linux, X (which reads the mouse) runs at 0 priority, the same as every other process. I’ve found that if you renice X to -11, and in your xinitrc replace ‘startkde’ with ‘nice -n -10 startkde’ (which starts all KDE processes at -10 priority) the UI responsiveness if greatly improved.
Last I read about debian and RPM 3.0/LSB is that they were looking for a way to be LSB compliant without switching to RPM, because they argue that DEB packages are superior. They were looking into some kind of wrapper for alien or something.
It’s been a while since I heard anything about it so I could be wrong, but I’d be interested in hearing your source about that.
Funny that it takes them this long to include an easy way to switch resolutions.
Funny, I never thought Ctrl-Alt-Num+ was that difficult…
Ctrl-Alt-Num+ is easy to do ONCE YOU FIGURE IT OUT…the problem is, that’s not exactly an intuitive way to switch resolutions…C’mon…if you had never used a *nix box before and you sat down to one…would you know that?
> Funny that it takes them
> this long to include an
> easy way to switch resolutions.
Well, the fix is finally here, aren’t you glad?
Conectiva ported Debian apt-get to be able to use RPM’s, if you didn’t know head over to http://freshrpms.net/apt/
CTRL + ALT + NUM+/- does NOT change the resolution, it changes the viewport. For example, i have my resolution set to 1600×1200 in XFree86, when I hit CTRL + ALT + NUM+ it makes my VIEWPORT 640×480, and the resolution is still 1600×1200 and i can move my mouse to the edges and it moves the viewport around the entire length of the resolution. this is NOT changing the resolution.
…than in version 7.3
Being a semi-newbie I assumed running up2date would be a logical thing to do, right after my install was up and running.
bad idea.
Mozilla, Galeon, Netscape suddenly lost all truetype support. Other apps completely misbehaved, or wouldn’t load at all. Sometimes, couldn’t even login to GNOME.
Thanks, RH. At least Windows Update never hosed my system.
Make this *BETTER* in the next release, or I may be forced to turn back to the evil empire.