Microsoft started rolling out Windows 10, its shiny new operating system from 29th of July and there have been reports of bugs and issues with installing the Windows 10 operating system on PC/Laptops. Of course, with new OS come new error messages but this one takes the cake.
Question time: which mail application of which operating system has a dialog that reads “bummer”? Your prize will be a firm handshake, to be administered by yourself or by whoever is standing closest to you.
All that purple for such a small error message. Its down right frustrating. Couldn’t they at least display a cute animal doing something absurd in that negative space? a Whale, Seal, lemur, sloth, something. Make me happy despite the error.
Yeah, it should be a puppy giving you the saddest look with the caption “Sowwy” underneath.
What happened to the sad face?
https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+sad+face&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
It’s the Windows 10 setup Window, which stays the same size throughout, regardless or how much or how little information it contains. Sure they could toss in additional stuff, but it doesn’t fit with Windows 10’s more minimalistic appearance. (Well, less minimalistic error messages would be nice.)
That being said, this is appears to be a placeholder. Microsoft should have a policy in place regarding placeholders so that they’re easy to find prior to shipping. If Microsoft doesn’t, shame on them. If Microsoft does and the programmer ignored it, perhaps they should be reprimanded. I’m thinking that changing all of their compiler error messages to, “something is wrong here,” for a week is suitable punishment.
Edited 2015-07-31 01:17 UTC
You can still have minimalism with less negative space, IMHO.
That’s kind of my main complaint with the Windows Metro ( or modern, or RT, or whatever) apps, they don’t use the screen efficiently and leave too much blank space without any variation in pattern.
Take a look at what the art world considers “minimalist”
https://www.google.com/search?q=minimalist+art&tbm=isch
I mean, heck, even a Good old Error haiku would be great. Remind me of the better things in life, and of the frailty of the human condition. The purple just reminds me of a Nihilist art work.
http://ravenseniors.wikispaces.com/file/view/nihilism.jpg/157805069…
It doesn’t surprise me. All throughout the Insider Test program, Windows 10 felt half-finished. The RTM rolls around and it STILL looks and feels half-finished. The new control panel UI is flat, ugly, unintutive, and doesn’t match the look of the rest of the OS. Every time I boot into Windows 10, the clock is always wrong, despite it being set to sync to a time server. I had to google how to make Windows stop mucking up the time settings. When you can’t even correctly display the time the after the USER specifies timezone, your OS has some issues.
If you install before SP1, you are beta testing it. If you install after reading their new privacy policy, you are a damn fool!
Has everyone forgotten that Microsoft laid off a lot of their Windows Test staff? Giving Windows betas to outsiders isn’t really testing, is it? The bugs are having a field day!
Or you could just use a local account…
That doesn’t turn off the keylogger, the ability of them to read your private data and share it at a whim, or Windows Defender’s constantly scanning your files and uploading signatures to a Microsoft database. Without an Enterprise edition, you can’t turn those off.
The tinfoil hat you’re wearing is quite a bit too tight.
I don’t mind your stupid comment. He’s right.
No, he isn’t.
— http://www.winbeta.org/news/using-windows-10-technical-preview-micr…
Neither does Windows Defender just randomly upload everything on your computer to Microsoft’s servers, it only sends samples of files that it thinks are malicious. Even that is easy to turn off.
You two just want to hate on Microsoft and are seemingly willing to use any rhetoric you possibly can bend to your agenda to justify that.
Any OS that you can’t configure to send zero network packets without your explicit permission is suspect, moreso if it’s a Microsoft OS.
http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html
…which you can turn off, with instructions in the very link you provided.
Troll harder.
Sensitive topic, eh? May I ask why?
Isn’t the fact you cannot disable telemetry without violating the license problematic? Unless MS make it so that you cannot disable telemetry without mucking with operating system internals (and who knows if they do this already), then they’re not evil at all and I am a troll?
I think he may have been counting the registry hack as a workable solution for most people. Or does that not work?
In any case, Microsoft goes to great lengths to tell people not to edit their registry. DANGEROUS!!! and what not.
Its the ms equivalent of telling a Linux desktop user to sudo and change a config file in /etc. Not an ideal task for grandpa joe.
IMO, it would have been acceptable if it was an official, sanctioned method to do it. This is just mucking around to see what sticks.
Edited 2015-07-31 15:47 UTC
Ah that makes sense, and is terrifying. I’ll be on 8.1 for a while until this gets cleared up. Still sad I need to be on windows at all, but you do what you need to sometimes for the masses.
You can turn it off in Home or Pro. Yes I agree it’s convoluted and unnecessarily painful, but it can be done on any version of Windows 10:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disa…
More to the point, when you first set up Windows 10 you can click “Customize” instead of “Express” and turn all the switches off, and that’s 99.9% of the data logging in the first place. The only thing left is OneDrive and Bit Defender, and it’s up to the user to decide whether to turn those features on or not. As long as you’re using a local account and flipping all the switches to “off”, you’re not sending anything to Microsoft you hadn’t already been sending in Windows 7 or 8.
Don’t get me wrong: I agree with you that tracking and logging is bad. I didn’t like the little bit that was done in Windows 7 and XP, which is why those OSes were just for gaming on my machine, as Windows 10 is now. I do anything else in Slackware and Antergos. I just think you’re intentionally spreading FUD because you have a hard-on for Microsoft that won’t go away, and I’m correcting that misinformation.
Which misinformation?
I mean, trying to argue that what’s literally spying that Microsoft has admitted will be doing in a non-optional fashion is no big deal, because you can use weak workarounds would be trivially easy for MS to disable DOES sound like some hard-on.
But Slashdot is now covering this exact topic, so head there for more unsourced commentary: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/08/01/1923256/ask-slashdot-can-you…
“…benefit of the doubt!” MICROSOFT??? Hmmm. I hate Microsoft because I know Bill Gates personally and dealt with him in the early days, when BASIC was king. Yes, I hold a grudge, but I really like Windows 10. A lot was lifted from the current Linux distros and it is mostly good… As an insider tester, Win 10 was actually usable unlike Windows 8. That said, it is still buggy in that it will not install in a dual boot environment. If you are using GRUB to manage bootable partitions, when you try and update to Win 10 you consistantly get a an error 800703ED. This also happens with the latest “security update” for Win 7. MS will not tell you why but one can presume they are are checking for multiple OS boot tracks or multi-boot loaders and will not update if they find one. MS can be really sneaky that way…
It will be interesting to see if you really can turn off the “nanny” scanning in Win 10. I suspect not. Yes, the referenced web sight says you can but my guess is that it merely masks probing.
Remember: Syber security is an illusion!
This takes the cake…
Yesterday, I tried out Windows 10. Sadly, it’s still a mess between old and new, conveyance problems, questionable etchics and layers of obfuscation due to dumbing down the system.
I’ve been using computers for the better part of 30 years. Windows 10 is littered with examples of inexcusably bad usability decisions.
Since we are more or less indentured users of this operating system in particular, I hope Microsoft rots in Hell for this abominable release. That’s how mad I am.
Edited 2015-07-31 01:52 UTC
Relax, dude. It’s just a piece of software. You act like it killed your dog or something.
Edited 2015-07-31 01:59 UTC
What if that piece of software is running the piece of equipment that is keeping your mother alive.
Uh, you don’t just randomly install an OS on medical equipment, they come with one from the factory.
WereCatf,
Windows is still windows even if it’s running on a hospital computer:
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/429616/computer-viruses-are-ra…
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/21/barts_mytob_recovery/
http://insights.dice.com/2011/12/15/hospital-computer-virus/
http://www.froedtert.com/computer-security-incident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/humber/4037959.stm
If you don’t mind a bit of anecdotal evidence, during an inpatient stay at the hospital the nurse had to reboot the computer monitoring patient vitals when it stopped working. Surely it was just a coincidence but…it was running windows.
If the world were logical, hospitals would be running microkernels.
“If the world were logical, hospitals would be running microkernels”
BlackBerry QNX, for example
In that case it’s very likely something Linux-based.
Are we? Blimey, don’t tell anyone I’ve escaped then!
Why don’t you, you know, try something that isn’t Windows if it’s that bad? You know you’re allowed to do that, right?
So switch to Linux. A learning curve is a small price to pay for not being constantly monitored by a major corporation with deep ties to the government.
After 3 attempts I finally got it on… but for no use afterwards!.. attempt #1 – I got the “something happened” msg, which didn’t happen the 2nd time… the 2nd time it spent a life time downloading updates and installing the system and converting my Windows 7 environment over.. but, right when it was finishing the migration… wham, it restarted and “Restoring your previous version of windows” message came up.. and it did!, after which, when it reloaded Win7 I was informed a migration error occured… so, round #3.. I told it to install but ONLY migrate my files and not my apps… installed fine!… the kicker.. A Gigabyte motherboard with realtek gigabit networking, it doesnt have the network drivers for!… 3 different wireless adapters… Windows 10 doesn’t have the drivers for.. Sooo, after all that… Windows 10 cannot go on the net with my machine… GREAT start Microsoft!!
Yeah, I couldn’t get the upgrade to work, either. I have far too much going on with my Windows 7 install to even consider going with a fresh Windows install – and I seriously can’t stand the flat look. I don’t have a computer worth more than my car just to look at a UI that looks like it was made in 1990.
Are you possibly dual-booting with another OS? I cannot load Win 10 in dual-boot mode with Ubuntu 15.04/64 and GRUB. I am suspecting MS is blocking running Win 10 beside another OS.
Flat design comes to language.
It’s not “bummer”, but it’s a mail program:
http://fopref.meinungsverstaerker.de/div/helo.gif
Well, technically the snarky response there was from the mail server rather than Eudora…though I guess the mail server is also technically a mail program? MUA vs MTA/MSA etc…
The server is right, though: Eudora’s being stupid if it’s sending “mail from” before saying HELO. How rude…
Since we’re on MSA or MTA responses, there’s always this beauty from Craigslist’s MXs:
http://linux.ioerror.us/2014/05/what-does-the-smtp-status-250-bonha…
I dunno about OS and mail application, but apparently MailChimp kind of qualifies?
http://kb.mailchimp.com/accounts/management/about-error-messages#Li…
I guess nginx could count as the “mail application” there, since that’s what the user is interacting with? Although I guess more accurately it would be MailChimp’s web app being used as the application. Does the user’s browser count? The user’s OS, or the server’s? …I’m getting all turned around now…
Thom, BeOS R5 Mail, iirc…
Or was it the MDR? I know I’ve seen that dialog.
Looking at the original article, it appears the problem is caused by not using American English.
Why am I not surprised, when this sort of nonsense happens:
https://www.illumos.org/issues/5956
Apparently, if you are a committer to this project, even your comments have to be in “American”.
Edited 2015-07-31 21:25 UTC
Bummer. Mail.