The FCC officially published its new net neutrality rules to the Federal Register yesterday, opening the door to legal challenges. Opponents wasted no time. CTIA, the trade association that has represented the wireless industry since 1984, filed a lawsuit with the DC Circuit Court of Appeals today. In a blog post, the group wrote that it intends to push back against “the FCC’s decision to impose sweeping new net neutrality rules and reclassifying mobile broadband as a common carrier utility.” The National Cable and Telecommunications Association and the American Cable Association also filed suits along similar grounds.
The blatant and rampant corruption in the US cable/internet/etc. market has been going on long enough. The US’ internet is barely better than that of a 3rd world country, and these despicable companies are to blame.
That may be a bit over the top. Sure, there is better connectivity out there, but third world country?
I’ve seen much worse!
Sadly, Thom has become WAY over the top lately in his fiery left-wing political, cultural, anti-religious, & economic sermons/diatribes lately. To him, any position but his is EVIL and/or stupid or ignorant.
Thom, have you considered a career in the States as an “impartial” academic in Higher Ed or as an “impartial” political reporter?
That was even more over the top, way up into the stratosphere.
Chill out man.
He’s got a point though. Are those over-generalizing, polarizing comments really necessary?
Immediately I wondered: how do you know, sir Thomas the Enlightened? Do you live there? Have you lived in one of those 3rd world countries where often the power isn’t even stable?
I agree those cable monopolies are a huge problem, but there’s absolutely no reason for that condescending tone he’s been having lately, acting like everything is so much better and more developed in the Netherlands. It’s ultra-nationalistic, misplaced and just plain wrong.
What people hear about the USA is usually what the media (and I include social media here) deems newsworthy. That’s usually all the shit that’s wrong in someone’s opinion. People don’t complain nor talk about all the boring stuff that just works.
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Going off topic here, but hey … what the hell, right?
I spent some time in the US.
Cultural differences aside (subjective, and many) …
MANY things are better and more developed in the US.
Things were much more convenient in general. Stores were open late. You can get your car serviced at 2 am if that’s what you wanna do. Big, wide roads. (generally) chilled out traffic. People drive carefully.
But most of all …
It’s not _THAT_ much different once you get used to it.
There are, however, LARGE cultural differences. Not that that matters. That’s more down to us as people.
Yeah. To be honest, living partly in the Netherlands, partly in Belgium, I can tell you there are some large cultural differences as well. In some aspects I like the Belgian way more, in others I think the Dutch do it better than us.
I don’t think you can always get the best of everything though, there’s a finite amount of resources and different cultures have different priorities on how to use those resources. It’s just the way it is. There is no “best”.
I’m a Belgian.
The only thing we do better than the dutch is mountains, lol.
Nah, Holland is almost the same as north Belgium. The south of Belgium is more like northern France (ish).
I grew up here. For me, this is normal.
The US was not “normal” for me, but i kept an open mind.
One thing i really never got used to was the small talk. I just don’t get it. I found it really annoying.
People always asking about the weather and if i had any kids and such. They were not interested in the answer. They just did it to be polite. I always found that strange.
If you want to talk to someone here, you talk to them. If you don’t, you don’t. Asking a question and ignoring the reply is considered very rude here, lol.
Anyway, rant over.
Haha yeah, in Flanders most people aren’t really talkative in public but I noticed the Dutch like to talk more and tend to start superficial conversations more often, especially outside the Randstad. I actually like that. I agree that the Americans are even “worse” in that regard though
Yes, dutch people sure like to talk a lot, lol.
Anyway … moral of the story. People are people, wherever you go.
It depends on where you are. Dutch people in Brabant and Limburg (the south) tend to be a little bit more open and approachable, while round where I live – West-Friesland (which is actually in Noord-Holland, confusingly enough) – as well as the north, people are almost 100% closed and stand-offish. It’s off-putting – and I say that as someone who’s born and raised here.
I *love* how easy it is to talk to, or have someone talk to you, in America. I’ve been to both the bluest of states, and the reddest of states, and no matter where you go, no matter the background, political orientation or amount of religious stuff, Americans are almost always nice, open, approachable, fun to talk to, and interested. I love it.
Never been to Friesland, can’t comment.
All i know is they talk funny.
Almost all of the Dutch people that come here are from close to the border. They talk a LOT, and with GREAT VOLUME.
Americans tend to be pretty approachable, yes, but in a platonic way. I don’t mean that in a bad way, but, although they are super easy to talk to, they won’t “let you in” very easily. Dno if that even makes sense.
I wonder if the fact that you’re born and raised there is partially the cause of that. I noticed that people often are more talkative and helpful towards tourists and strangers than towards people who live in the same place. But that could be a pretty Belgium centric observation.
In many cases, we ARE interested in the answers to those questions. Most Americans don’t really travel outside of the US. In fact, many have never left their own states & cities. So, when we return from travel, people want to know all about the trip…including the people that we met would traveling. That small talk provides answers to the questions that we’ll inevitably be asked once we return home. Even the most minute part of your day is interesting to some people who’ve never left America.
Don’t feel too bad. I’ve lived in the US all my life seeing as I was born here, and I still don’t understand that. Don’t think I ever will. Sad thing is, you’re seen as rude if you don’t do it, and I always feel like an idiot when I try. I mean, I don’t care about the small talk, so I wouldn’t expect them too either. The whole thing just seems like a farce to me and probably always will.
Btw, that one’s just as common up in the English-speaking portions of Canada, though it seemed to be far less of a thing around the French-speaking areas.
What parallel universe did you drop into?
In a number of civil rights issues, among other things, yes, we are better – but the US is moving forward rapidly in that regard. In many other things, we suck balls. I actually like Americans way better than Dutch people – Americans are way nicer, more open, more approachable, and more fun to be around. If it weren’t for the high crime rates and abysmal healthcare “system”, I would’ve moved to the US years ago.
And I’ve actually said all this countless times on OSNews. Don’t put words in my mouth.
I’m not putting words in your mouth, I’m simply stating you act that way. In fact, it’s even in the first word of what you quoted.
If you want to keep the silly hyperboles, go ahead. I just think it looks immature and unnecessarily antagonizing, and apparently I’m not the only one.
> high crime rates
You do realize that crime has been dropping like a rock since the 90s, right? Furthermore, it’s dumb to look at a raw national average for things like that, since there’s so much variation between states, cities, and even neighborhoods in some cities.
> healthcare system
We’re working on that too. All we need is a low cost public option added to the PPACA (“Obamacare”) and it will be effectively universal. Medicare and Medicaid already provide for those with zero income, we just have to cover the rest of the working poor. This stands a high chance of happening if the Republicans can be kept out of the White House for another 4-8 years, although I really hope we don’t get Hillary.
Feel lucky you actually see someone complaining about what’s wrong through independent channels.
I have no problem with the complaining. I’m merely explaining why the US may appear like a place with nothing but problems to an outsider: we don’t get to hear the good things because nobody cares about all the good things.
My comments are in response to his repeated polarizing, over-generalized, & at times hateful words in both the articles & the article comments. The man who brags about his superior European tolerance has a narrow view of tolerance. As with some US tech journalists–most notably Ed Bott–Holwerda feels compelled to gratuitous insults about tech issues. Not exactly a strategy to build reader #s.
Polarising? Anything you disagree with is polarising. Over-generalised? It’s called hyperboles. I’ve been using them extensively since day one. It’s a figure of speech used extensively all over the world. They are so clearly marked and so drop-dead obvious even a 2 year old could catch them while on his midday nap (see what I did there).
Hateful? Nope. Not at all. Not ever. Point me to one.
An overuse of hyperboles (on the same subject) tends to move the baseline which makes it difficult to spot if something is a hyperbole or default behaviour. At that point they lose the intended effect and people start complaining. You may not see it that way since you’re the one making them, but others find it harder to notice.
WTF do you mean by ‘lately’?
Hyperbole. Learn it
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ok
I’LL f–kING LEARN IT! THIS BETTER BE GODDAMN WORTH IT!
good?
Oh no, right, that’s just yelling and swearing, nevermind.
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That’s not hyperbole.
“Hyperboles are exaggerations to create emphasis or effect.”
You made 3 statements. Are you saying that all 3 are hyperbole or should we guess?
1. The blatant and rampant corruption in the US cable/internet/etc. market has been going on long enough.
2. The US’ internet is barely better than that of a 3rd world country
3. , and these despicable companies are to blame.
It is very difficult to seperate fact from fiction, especially when you throw in words like “barely” that actually soften the effect of the hyperbole
For some facts: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/28/comcast-ceo-internet_n_540…
You do know that the left wing, or so called liberals, are the ones who actually took away the “by divine governance” and the “inherited governance” down and imposed a republic in USA? Or is your only source of news Faux News? (Fox “news”)?
Looks to me like the USA is about average compared to European countries – faster than some, slower than others.
Compared to other large expansive countries (Australia, Canada, China, Russia, and Brasil), the USA is the fastest.
Ditto with the price/MB, more expensive than some European countries and cheaper than others. And we’re higher than most European countries on the “Promise Index.”
http://www.netindex.com/download/
Yeah, i know someone that lives in Canada, and from what i can tell, his options are limited, and prices are pretty high. We compared it to Belgium (where i live), Holland, Germany and the USA.
The USA didn’t fare too badly, tbh.
Except in one area … the fact that contracts are almost always long term deals, and they are almost impossible to get out of.
Yeah, especially if you’re dumb enough to bundle. Neutrality isn’t going to change that though.
Sweden and Finland are third world countries.
People are using it wrong.
The classical and international definition of “third world” means that you are not in the NATO, Commonwealth or their allies and puppets group (1st world) or the Soviet, Warsaw pact, China and their allies and puppets. (2nd world) The third world means the entirety of the rest of the world whom are not aligned with either (at least not officially)
No. The classic defintion was the old world (Europe), the new world(America), and then the rest. The second definition was the cold war split you mention. And now a days it is an imagined place where things are just not as good as here.
In your first definition there is only two then? Or is Australia 3rd, considering the old world=1st, new world=2nd and 3rd being the new new world (australia and the oceanias) or does it refer to the moon?
The term was coined by Kemal Abdal Nasser when he formed the NaN (Non aligned nations) during the cold war era. All other definitions are later constructs and pretty much as much of the websters definitions irrelevant.
https://www.ziggo.nl/alles-in-1/?intcmp=promo_allesin1
For 46 euro a month you have 40mbit/4mbit, tv, radio and landline.
What do you get for $46 a month in the US?
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46 euros = approx 49 bucks.
comcast gets you 25 mbit + tv for 45 bucks, or 105 mbit + tv for 55
http://www.comcast.com/internet-service.html
at&t is worse, but still far from “third world”
50$ for 18 mbit + tv, or 60$ for 45 mbit + tv
https://www.att.com/shop/internet.html
There are many others, of course.
Is it as cheap as back here? No. Is it (generally) as fast as back here? No.
But third world? Come on …
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That sounds good. I hope you don’t have data limits. I always hear Americans complain that they spend $100 to $200 on internet/tv
One of the most advanced countries in the world should have one of the best internet services in the world. I don’t know the exact numbers but I would guess that the US would score pretty low compared to other rich countries.
I don’t live in the US. I live in Belgium.
I did spend some time in the US, though, so it is easier for me to compare.
The only thing that i found to be sub-par compared to how telcos work in Europe is that they impose limits on what you can and cannot do.
If you get a mobile data connection, tethering is extra. The phone has firmware that is tightly controlled by telcos, etc.
Other than that, it really isn’t that much different.
If you’re stupid enough to get a subsidized phone, or an iPhone (which has carrier-specific conditions built into iOS itself) then yes. Otherwise you can tether all you want and they can’t do a damned thing about it. Don’t let your carrier control your phone in the first place. You’ll save money in the process anyway.
Here, they just cannot dictate what you do with your service, period.
p13,
Beware though that US cable companies are absolutely notorious for misleading adverting. Don’t take those prices at face value, you have to read the terms very carefully. Those are just temporary promotional rates for new customers only, after the promotion ends you end up paying the normal rates ($70-75). Also there may be extra fees or bundled services that you might have to pay for even during the promotion…
I know this because our ISP (optimum online) does the same thing. They advertise fantastic deals (at least in the context of US), but once you add in the fees and end the promotion, your paying almost double the advertised price for internet service. I don’t know if this is common in Europe, but I think for many of us in the US it’s business as usual.
I think the few markets that google fiber has entered establishes that ISPs are able to sell far better internet services at much better prices when they compete, but many Americans just don’t have the benefit any broadband ISP competition at all.
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It used to be like this, but new laws allow us to cancel every month without additional charges.
Basically, if you don’t like them, you can cancel for free.
p13,
I have not heard about a law banning early termination fees, can you elaborate? In searching, I found this website, and it looks like some people are still being charged early termination, depending on the terms of the package. Here are comcast examples:
http://www.cancel-help.com/cancel-comcast/
Anyways, your response strikes me a bit odd because I really don’t feel the problem is subscribers cancelling their internet service – we want internet service after all. The problem is that we live in highly monopolized markets with very few incentives for ISPs to improve the value of internet services.
Edited 2015-04-16 18:04 UTC
I live in Belgium, not the USA.
We have laws that lets us cancel the service free of charge.
p13,
Haha, then I’m totally confused how it relates to my “RE[3]” post. No matter though. I am curious, how many completing broadband ISP choices are available for you there? I assume Europeans have more competition for internet services, but I don’t know if it’s actually true.
Ah, well, i guess i should clarify.
I spent some time in the US, and also subscribed to an internet service there.
Belgium is not as good as The Netherlands when it comes to choices. We have a bad situation where a lot of the infrastructure that was once state owned has been sold off to “private” companies.
If you want to get cable, you have to go through telenet.
If you want to get A/S/VDSL, you have to go through belgacom.
Belgacom owns the phone lines, telenet owns the cable network.
Prices went down quite a bit recently with the new laws. They both started competing (finally), and drove prices down quite a bit.
I pay 50 euros a month for 2TB of guaranteed quota @ @ 150mbits (i can go over, but at lower speeds). I also have a fixed IP.
This is Verizon and Comcast hiding behind a puppet organization that they fund completely. The behavior of these two companies is disgusting.
Also, looking at where these companies and other wireless, cable, fiber, copper lines companies operate, they will not seriously “hunt” in each others “territories”.
Well, they do, but it’s more for “show”.
The only “agressive” one I know is T-Mobile.
All the other ones are just “mellow” and rake-in $$$.
[off-topic]
On a more serious (OSNews worthy) note:
The Linux kernel version 4.0 was released yesterday…
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This’ll just change the players, not the process. Now, instead of those with the money dictating the rules, it’ll be those in tight with the politicians. We’re really no better off, and ultimately we may be worse if they take this too far. First it’s net neutrality, then it’ll be CISPA all over again and this time they’ll play off the net neutrality laws to scoot it by.
Thom, you may not want to comment on what you don’t understand. It’s well and good to say the corruption has gone far enough, a sentiment with which I heartily agree, but if you really trust our corrupt government to do any better you are naive on a level which is impossible to contemplate. Just because your government gets it right does not mean ours is even capable of that kind of sense. Once you understand that the people who get in here are trying only to gain power, not to help the rest of us peasants, you’ll understand how this is going to play out. It’s as certain as our populous is ignorant.
One other thing: these companies could not have become so corrupt without the help of the very government you think is going to manage the internet better than they do. Again, remember the cultural difference before you say how wonderful it is to swap one set of corrupt bastards for another.
Thom you may want to stop the hyperbole about the US and third world corruption. Europe, and therefore your much beloved own country, has not a thing to brag about. Geographically, about half of Europe is considered an “emerging economy” aka third-world countries. If you don’t believe me look it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Developing_countries.png
In the US anyone has the right to bring a lawsuit against just about anything. That doesn’t mean it will stand or even get past preliminary motions. Why don’t you educate yourself on the US legal and lawmaking system before speaking… oh wait… I forgot, you prefer the same ignorant hyperbole some of our own citizens engage in.
How about more ignorant hyperbole? Everyone in the Netherlands is too high on pot to have journalistic integrity.
(facepalm) Nice showing us that you know nothing about the geography of Europe, this is as stupid as saying you should not be proud about the USA because most of south america is on that list.
If you want to try something fun you should try to compare your map with a map showing where the border of the Warzaw Pact countries used to be.
Sorry that Thom hurt your feelings, but he does have a point, even if it is exaggerated. There are many great things about the USA, but internet connection options is not really one of them.
Someone posted a link to netindex’s download list, showing the USA being ranked fairly well, but try to look at the upload chart instead and suddenly the USA is ranked below countries like Russia, China, and even Bangladesh. While upload speed for many is not all that important, it does indicate that old highly assymetrical technologies are still domninant.
http://www.netindex.com/upload/allcountries/
Now as a european i think it is both funny and very sad that Germany is actually much much MUCH worse on this chart.
Huh what? Since when is Eastern Europe no longer a part of Europe? Even western Russia is part of Europe. And for your information, Europe (continent) has an area of 10.1M km², the USA (country) has 9.8M km².
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All the companies supporting this lawsuit should be made public. So instead of stating coalition, it should always be coalition x composed of companies A, B, C, D, E, F. Take away their coalition shield so we all know which companies they are.
My recent dealings with comcast this year for both residential and for business leave me upset and irate. comcast is fairly profitable I think but they don’t seem to want to invest one bit in anything related to customer service. Every time I call in I get handed off to different departments. And each handoff I have to identify myself from scratch.
I called up the local DSL service and they pissed me off. I dont give a #%*$ if you think you are a telephone company, I just want an internet connection and to hell with the rest.
The best way to solve this is to find some way to open up competition and get more players in the market for internet service, not inject more government! I myself don’t understand all the challenges of doing that but certainly these big players are doing bad things to keep a hold of their monopoly/duopoly cartels.
And most of the information I read on the issue in tech journalism is very one sided. It’s much closer to an angry mob than healthy objective debate.
The United States is about #180 in the world by population density (32/km^2). The US is broadband speeds are among the top ~25 or so countries in the world but many of the countries beating it have vastly higher population densities.
South Korea for instance has a population density of 503/km^2.
Another point people overlook is they blame the evil cable companies for the slow speeds but ignore the fact that Cable is kicking the crap out of DSL and DSL is a lot of what is holding back the national average broadband speeds. If the US average was as high as the average for Cable broadband the US would be doing better than it’s doing now.
Title II regulation is supposed to solve everything but the reason people say cable is a monopoly because DSL is too slow to count as actual competition but DSL is already under Title II.
Next people make apples to apples comparisons of the price of Internet in the US vs other countries but the US generally has a higher cost of living for all things. Comparing price alone means nothing if you aren’t going to normalize it against the often vastly higher incomes and cost of living in the US than other countries. In many countries with cheaper/faster speeds if you compare the cost of Internet against average household income broadband in the US is actually cheaper.
After you normalize for some of those factors the US still isn’t #1 but the picture isn’t nearly as bleak as people make it out to be. Tech journalists don’t seem to have any interest at all in covering the issue objectively. The issue is complex and there is more involved than people are aware of.
Here is your pitchfork Thom.
Very brave to come out like this and to provide some facts and numbers.
What people complain mostly about is not the actual speed or price but the lack of competition that has stopped providers from improving. That is why the US is dropping in these ratings although other factors stay the same.
It also sends a very bad signal when CEO’s say “we are offering the best speed we can for the money” but as soon as Google fiber arrives somewhere they increase the speed fivefold at that very location without any increase in price. Or in other words: These CEO’s are liars and their companies cannot be trusted
“for instance”? S. Korea is an extreme example and you know it. Or: some of the countries beating the US have much lower… “big 3” Nordic countries have population densities around half that of the US.
living in the US and having travelled to about 20 countries I can say that the US is no where near 3rd world country when it comes to internet speed. Comcast recently upgraded its service and I get 105Mbps download speed and 10Mbps upload speed which is decent. Many countries getting 1mbps download was considered broadband and often it would just disconnect for no reason.
So, how many Americans have access to 105/10 connections? And how much will they be expected to pay for it? And how many providers can they get it from if things turn sour?
I’m not trying to corner you, just want to put things in perspective. I live in one of the poorest countries in the EU (and even though we’re in the EU, i.e. by no means a 3rd world country, the difference from the EU average is quite big). I have a 64/40 connection (which is actually over Ethernet, so it has very low latency – Google is 7 hops and less than 1ms away!) and I pay $14/month in current exchange rates. Best of all, if I’m not happy, there are at least 10 other providers with similar offers. Sure, I’m in the capital city where the competition is the fiercest but that’s precisely the point. Somehow, from what I’ve read in the last several years, I don’t get the impression that there’s much competition in the cable and ISP business in the USA. And it’s supposed to be quite the reverse.
>Google is 7 hops and less than 1ms away!
I assume the 1ms here is a typo but there is no law restricting someone from starting a competing ISP in the US. The only restrictions in place anywhere have to do with how in bed you are allowed to be with government funding while you do it but if you are funding the install costs with the intent of making a profit though monthly subscriber fees there is nothing in your way of launching a fiber/ethernet ISP tomorrow.
If you launched a 64/40 service for $14/month in the US you would get a lot of subscribers but you would lose an absolute fuckton of money too because that wouldn’t even come close to covering your install and operation costs here.
I’ve seen install costs for new FTTH deployments in the ballpark of $2,000 to $3,000 per subscriber. Rolling out fiber broadband in the fairly small city of Chattanooga, TN is said to have cost in the ballpark of $550 million and that’s just install so it doesn’t factor operational costs and upkeep: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/25/golden-hammer-chatt…
Page 2 of that article lists them at slightly over 60,000 subscribers which puts their install costs at a shocking $9,000 per subscriber funded mostly through the government and municipality.
The ISP’s in the US mostly oppose municipal run broadband projects and people get pretty mad at them for it but competition is one thing but a half billion dollar tax funded initiative to drive them out of one small city just to end up with a different more government backed monopoly is not a very good solution to the problem.
If you think you could come to the US and operate profitably selling 64/40 for $14/month for the love of baby jesus please come do it but replacing expensive corporate networks with expensive government networks only moves balance of costs from monthly fees to taxes and makes it even harder in the long run for people to take their money to a competitor.
We may be behind countries with 10x our population density with a feeble 35Mbps national average but I’m far from ready to give the government the keys over it and see how they do just yet and like I said before there is no restriction from starting a competing company for anyone who thinks they can roll out a competing product with better value.
Just the fact that investors aren’t funding ISP startups to compete with the status quo in the the US should tell you the companies involved today aren’t swimming in a surplus of cash as the media seems to think they are. If that were true investors would be entering the market to undercut the ISP’s and getting rich doing it.
People who feign outrage over the matter overlook a lot of things.
[quote]Just the fact that investors aren’t funding ISP startups to compete with the status quo in the the US should tell you the companies involved today aren’t swimming in a surplus of cash as the media seems to think they are[/quote]
No, it means that there are very strong anti-competitive forces at work because the companies involved ARE swimming in a surplus of cash:
In the company’s annual report, which was filed in February 2014, Comcast reported 136,000 employees and annual 2013 profits of more than $6.8 billion. Between 2009 and 2013, Comcast recorded total profits of more than $24 billion.
Comcast reported that it made $1.9 billion in profits in the first quarter of 2014—an 18 percent increase year-over-year.
Those are profits, not revenue of course so in the last 5 years a 24 billion pile of cash has been build up and the current schedule is 2 billion extra every 3 months!
Sorry, couldn’t resist
root@gogo:~# ping -c 10 google.com
PING google.com (removed by poster) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=0.838 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=0.720 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=0.946 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=0.965 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=0.835 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=0.712 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=0.749 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=8 ttl=59 time=0.658 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=9 ttl=59 time=0.687 ms
64 bytes from (removed by poster): icmp_seq=10 ttl=59 time=0.700 ms
— google.com ping statistics —
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.658/0.781/0.965/0.103 ms
But, seriously, the current model for Internet delivery is wrong. I think that the most efficient use of resources is to have a single municipal network over which the different ISPs compete to deliver you the Internet service. However, the big telcos have moved to ban municipal projects with state-level legislation. It will be too much of a level playing field to be to the incumbents’ liking.
tl;dr
ever heard of a CDN?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network
This, times a hundred. Especially since once the governments get involved over here we no longer have competitors at all.