Thanks to OSNews reader “Cyber Jackle”, here are nine shots of Fedora test: 1, 2, 3, 4…More shots: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
So far we found out that:
1. There is no LILO anymore, just GRUB.
2. The firewall installation screen is reworked.
3. You need to confirm that you want to proceed with the package installation
4. The Red Hat logos have being replaced with the Fedora logos in Anaconda
5. There are new packages available, like SubVersion and the Bluetooth gnome utility. Epiphany is not installed by default.
6. The packaging tool for Fedora will sport support for both YUM and APT repositories!
Looks pretty nice.
OK,a couple things:
1. Why do they call it fedora CORE? (OK, I know why). Its just a bad name. Why not just leave it at “Fedora”. What makes it the “CORE”? Its a whole distribution. I would consider the kernel the core.
2. As Eugenia informed me, if one package fails to install during installation (and RPMs do that), then the whole install is bonked. This is wrong.
3. I think this is a change for the better. Its nice, and will have more of a Debian feel. I dont think its radical enough though. RPM has to be reworked, and so do a few other things.
4. Nice screenshots. I like Bluecurve (old and new).
I dont know… I’ve tried gnome v2.4 and everything looks too big. From the system tray bar right to the built-in browser and nautalis file manager. It all takes up too much room and leaves little space to, eg. read osnews.com.
Its not like we cant miss it.
Besides that, this just looks like an updated version of redhat9 without all the options put in. That doesnt sound like progress to me …
I love redhat’s default font. It’s so pretty. Lets all admire that font
It doesn’t detect the touchpad on my laptop. IT’S JUST A PS/2 MOUSE!!!
Does gnome now have the ability for a true ‘transparent’ taskbar or was the taskbar’s background the small as the wallpaper?
I like the name. I understand that it will be the CORE of RH Enterprise Products, hence the name CORE.
and btw the Fedora’s site now have new favicon.ico.
Was me it me or did the boot floppy dialog screenshot seem to show that the boot floppy file was too big for a floppy? Perhaps someone should look into that
Does gnome now have the ability for a true ‘transparent’ taskbar or was the taskbar’s background the small as the wallpaper?
Yep, now you can choose the level of opacity you want in the panels.
Victor.
I dont know… I’ve tried gnome v2.4 and everything looks too big. From the system tray bar right to the built-in browser and nautalis file manager. It all takes up too much room and leaves little space to, eg. read osnews.com.
Well, the bars (panels) you now can control how big you want them. In my opinion, Epiphany’s buttons are too big. But that’s just that… loved the new Gnome.
Besides that, this just looks like an updated version of redhat9 without all the options put in. That doesnt sound like progress to me …
I have to agree with on this one…
Victor.
I decided to get this release and try it out, my only complaint is that there is still no MP3 support with this release but KDE does seem more complete, one of the problems I had with RH9 was that I was unable to change the Konsole schema.
I understand that I guess. But its suppose to be a COMMUNITY project. They dont want people to get the impression that they are just trying to get free help.
Why should we do free work for them just so they can charge us $700 for it.
I know we’re doing that anyway, but the name is kind of rubbing that in.
I noticed at the screenshots that the “KGear” was not replaced by the redhat, is it the default? is it done to please the hard core KDE users?
Works fine for me (with Fedora of course). Don’t blame the software for user errors. Linux software takes more time to learn, but it will be worth it in the end, because you will have a much more intimate knowledge of the software and how it works.
Gimme a break. I do know WTF I’m doing with Linux. The fact of the matter is that something as simple as a mouse damn well better work. Going through the installer with tab and space bar is *VERY* annoying, and unacceptable.
trivia: in portuguese “fedora core” resembles “fedor a cor” wich means “stench of color”
LOL… people getting pissed that BETA software doesn’t work… sorry, thats just too funny.
I know it’s nitpicky, but something tells me the person making those screenshots doesn’t own matrix.com, which means they shouldn’t be calling their machine neo.matrix.com.
Other than that, it looks… well… like every other Linux distro out there, with a different default wallpaper and icon. I really don’t see the point in having screenshots of the different distros, because once their installed, they all look the same.
I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, I think it’s one of Linux’s strengths, I just think we should start focusing more on what the new features of distros are, instead of padding it all with screenshots.
Linux users have gotten used to EVERYTHING being in Beta ALL THE TIME. So we get our complaints out while we can.
How long has WINE been in beta? 10 years?
Until Thompson puts in writing that GPL software can use mp3 codecs royalty-free with no limits on redistribution, there will *never* be mp3 support in a Red Hat (sponsored) distro.
The main distro is called Core because there will also be package repositories labeled Fedora Extras, Fedora Alternatives and Fedora Legacy.
’bout time they got rid of the faux-LED clock!
Is it possible to install without burning it? *out of blank cds*
Like an hdd install floppy or something?
Wine is alpha… 😉 Check their homepage.
I’m not seeing the point of this… how is this any different than previous Redhat releases?
I’m not seeing the point of this… how is this any different than previous Redhat releases?
For starters, It’s not redhat.
I didn’t say that you don’t know what you are doing. In fact I would assume the opposite since you are using a bleeding edge Linux distribution. I’m just saying that often (in my experience), a lot of documentation reading is sometimes necessary to solve small problems. Whining about it on OSnews certainly is going to help Fedora detect your mouse.
What benefits are there ?
for starters, yes it is RedHat.
This release signifies the beginning of more community focused development for RH. Now, how much a change this will be in reality is debatable. I think that it will be community driven rather than RH driven with RH remaining as the editorial chief. I am hoping that this will mean more frequent releases of betas and looking at their schedule it would seem so.
As for MP3 support, who needs it? I use Ogg Vorbis! I know that a lot of people have MP3s they they’ve ripped or downloaded, but RH shouldn’t include it in their releases eny more than Microsoft should use Linux code in their closed-source releases. Plus, including MP3 support just erodes Ogg Vorbis’ being free advantage.
Why would Red Hat ditch an established brand? It’s like Apple suddenly deciding to call itself AcmeSoft, or whatever, it makes no sense. The most common reaction most people are likely to give is, “egh???”. I dunno, you spend years building up a leading brand and then finally make a name for yourself, only instantly to throw it all away on a whim.
What’s in a name? More than you would think I suspect.
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They aren’t ditching an established brand, just refocusing their business plans. They found that the “Enterprise” market (where they make their money) is far more interested in stability and long release cycles than rapid releases and bleeding-edge innovation. To address that need, they’ve developed the Red Hat Enterprise Linux in various flavors. That line will carry on the brand.
But they also recognize the need for an innovative distro with a rapid release cycle to develop and refine features for future releases — hence the community-supported distro that was to be “The Red Hat Linux Project”, now called “The Fedora Project.”
In my opinion, these changes are good for Red Hat and Red Hat users both…
ok, I have Fedora installed and it is oh-so-buggy… In my opinion, it is buggier than the first beta.
I don’t think I will be reporting bugs this time though, I have done so in the past for Red Hat, and so no fixes.
1. Samba through Nautilus does not work for me, while on the SAME machine, Slackware’s Nautilus DOES connect to my XP.
2. When I close the “close button” in the window manager of the preferences/accessibility pref-panel, Gnome asks me if I want to… logout!!
3. I can’t install any new packages! I installed Red Hat using the “minimal” option, and it mounts my CD, it asks for the first CD, I put it on, and the Package Management window does not recognize it, but it keeps asking me for the CD!(yes, it does read the CD, it just thinks that this is not the right CD, however the package is after IS there!)
4. Anaconda died the first time I tried to install it when going to graphics mode. I _know_ that Red Hat has problems with some Savage onboard chipsets, I had to go to the BIOS and completely turn off the onboard graphics and use my GeForce in order to get to anaconda and X.
5. The mouse was jumping like crazy during the first-boot-setup application. I had to use TABs to get from widget to widget. After that app went away, the mouse started working fine, but it is really ugly to have such an effect in your first 2 minutes of booting the OS.
6. For some reason, my YMF-754 PCI sound card has very low volume [yes, I have used the gnome volume app]! Red Hat 9 also had the same problem on that card. Slackware doesn’t. I have to use my speakers on 80% to get sound that I normally get on 25%.
In the 45 minutes I am using this, I found 6 bugs already… Not so good for a second beta, especially when the previous version worked better…
The prettiness keeps increasing, but the sensibility doesn’t. Look at the menus. “More Internet Apps” “More Media Apps” “More Preferences” … wasted empty UI space. Huge controls. Questionable consistency. Much of this could be easilly resolved if they just sat down and did it. Look at the app names… what do those names mean to non Linux people?
These are the things I would tackle were it my interest to do so.
Come on… let’s get there already. Linux could be so great if only the geeks and hard core people could be beaten into compliance with sensible design conventions.
> I understand that I guess. But its suppose to be a COMMUNITY project. They dont want people to get the impression that they are just trying to get free help. Why should we do free work for them just so they can charge us $700 for it.
First of all: Redhat does not charge you for 700 for it – it charges for _support_, at place- support for companies running servers in case of something brokes – they go fix it. get it, they charge for _support_ and _services_. Secondly, you don’t seem to be long-time Linux-user. Redhat has improved and promoted Linux more than any else distribution maker ever. And they have always gave their technology back to community. After ten long years, maybe it’s time for community to give something back to Redhat. You probably also are aware that Redhat hasn’t done any +money until couple last quarters.
Yes it is. Check out http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=