Euronode released a web site which allows users to build pre-configured Debian GNU/Linux servers, tailor-made for their exact needs. Users can follow a simple web-based wizard to choose services (web, mail, database, samba, etc.), and options. Once done, the web site will generate a bootable .iso image, with all configuration and server parameters already set up.
This concept reminds me of Google Pack. I think this is a great idea for linux distros as it saves end-users from downloading large files containing packages they will never use. This way, you can cut down on download size a bit.
I checked it out, and at 404 euros, this is idiotic. People shouldn’t be so lazy. Especially when there are projects like SLAX which could do this free..with a lot more flexability. Amazing the things people think of just to scrape some money
If this given out for free, someday the number of Linux distro will surpass the number of Linux user.
You’re paying for the service. Accusing someone of being moronic for using such is like hammering an algebra student for not grasping differential equations.
If someone can run a business doing this, then more power to them.
Hm, nice, but i don’t like licenses..
I guess you can download the trial, 30 days evalution shit and boot up a livecd, chroot into the system and remove the lock?
source:
https://euronode.com/Screenshots/IntranetMailServer/mailserver5.png/…
Edited 2006-03-05 22:05
This seems like it would be an interesting convenience if it were free (althought it would be a bit of a crutch). Obviously though, it’s impractical to do for free.
But offering it as a paid service is asinine. A far better product would be configuration/management tools that actually ran on your own box. (I didn’t see anything about pricing, I’m just going with the €404 quoted above).
The total with taxes is 205.00 euros.
Everyone seems to be missing the point here. Sure, it’s a pay service. People pay for things that make their life easier. Someone new to linux and needing a quick/easy setup, this could be ideal.
I am trying a basic File Server(30 day trial).
If I was in the market for a server and was not familiar with linux, I would consider this. Hell, you would pay someone several hundred to load and configure a server for you. 300 Bucks is not outrageous if it works as they say.
Not everyone wants to break out vi and start tweaking.
It’s kinda interesting I think.
something like this for not just servers would be interesting, as well. basically LFS on demand, done for you. hehe.
remaster Slax.I did that,and the result is a Linux distro by the name or Tragix.
I ran through a quick LAMP setup in this thing and the resulting price was over $400. That’s four hundred bucks for a Debian system (eww) with three months of “mail” support (they didn’t even specify Email. This could be snail mail for all I know). If I were going to run a Linux system and needed support, I would drop a $100 for RedHat with a year of Live support from guys that know Linux and don’t have a site full of spelling errors.
I am starting to be quite nervous about these “leenoks for dummies” server setups.
In Usenet and forums I happen to read more and more messages of people starting with “I have to setup a linux server with this and that”, and generally it’s people who have no clue of linux, or even worse with IT consultant companies in their signatures or email addresses.
I think a lot of badly configured linux servers will pop out in the next few months, and this will not look very good. Get the facts anyone?
Setting up a Debian server is quite easy, when you have a little bit of experience with linux. I think you don’t really need to pay 400EUR to have an iso: the Debian netinstall and debconf are more than enough (especially since looks like the “wizard” on the website is nothing more than debconf questions).
Setting up a Debian server is quite easy, when you have a little bit of experience with linux. I think you don’t really need to pay 400EUR to have an iso
Especially since there is quite a lot of help out there on the net or in books. A fraction of 400 Euros would buy a couple of good how-to books. A good site (imho) for helping to set up Debian as a server is http://www.debian-administration.org/
which is run by a Debian dev. Lots of helpful tips on there.
If the Euronode site’s wizard really is just recycling Debconf questions then the whole thing sounds pretty cheeky.
I run that site and I’ll setup a server for only 200
Personally I think that this is an expensive service, but I can see why they would want to charge for it. I think it would be nice to be able to buy the software upon the server and use it internally.
That would allow you to install any number of new Linux servers on-demand. That would be ideal for people running ISPs, etc, who don’t already use something like FAI/SystemImager/Ghost.
this is as close to lfs as you will get, except you don’t have to do much work and it’s based on debian.
Its still a cool idea! Lets see were it takes things in a year or two.
-nX
Would have been a great idea had the price been say: 9.99.
Where’s Steve when you REALLY need him?
definitely not a good deal. there are lots of new distro installers with the same user-friendlyness… at cero price.
Like if it let you do anytype of system you wanted like LFS, but no programing knolege needed. I would love to do my own desktop system that way.
There’s another web service out there, called rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/ (you have to click on the rBuilder Online logo in the upper-right) — it lets you build a much more granular system based on individual packages…you can also create VMware player images, and QEMU images as well as installable ISOs. It’s quite a bit more powerful than Euronode because you have much more control of the packages you can select.
Edit: I just noticed that Euronode costs 100 EUR per image…yikes! rBuilder Online is free…
Edited 2006-03-07 17:31