Linked by David Adams on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:03 UTC
Gnome Two months ago, Gnome took its software repository offline in order to bolster internal security, and since then there has not been a focal point on the internet for GNOME software. We're happy to announce Gnomefiles.org, a resource for Gnome/GTK+ developers and users to post and find software. Read for more info and the prizes we offer to the first devs that will submit an app.
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Fantastic
by Adam Scheinberg on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:16 UTC

This is fantastic. One thing KDE has that Gnome doesn't is a swarm of sites dedicated to collecting apps for it. Although gnome.org and the collective that stretches around it is awesome (and the sites are 1000 times nicer looking than the KDE ones), a central Gnome site is going to be huge. Good luck.

v Desktop Neutrality
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:21 UTC
v RE: Desktop Neutrality
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:26 UTC
v Censorship
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:29 UTC
Application of the Week
by Charlie on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:42 UTC

You really want to put that in one of the vacant sidebars.

Freshmeat?
by Izzy on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:44 UTC

I don't see why we need this when we already have Freshmeat.net

RE: Freshmeat?
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:45 UTC

Freshmeat has a lot of Linux/OSX/Palm/other software all in one. KDE has kde-apps.org and it is very popular, exactly because it is specific to KDE. We thought that we could help the Gnome platform by doing so the same.

BeBits for gnome
by Euro@Portugal ;-) on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:47 UTC

Cool!

RE:Eugenia
by another2 on Wed 16th Jun 2004 19:58 UTC

Good to here, I'll be visiting this site regularly, thanx

RE:
by Jeremy Wininger on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:00 UTC

very good idea. But it is only as good as the people who actually use it.

Hopefully the Gnome and gtk app developers will take the time to submit their stuff to Gnome Files.

my bad
by another2 on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:01 UTC

ment hear

looks good, the more the merrier
by blahblah on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:17 UTC

i am an avid reader of gnomedesktop.org and i will add this site to my list

that's nice
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:19 UTC

Gnome apps and credit card ads. ;)

Hats off to you Eugenia!
by Karl on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:19 UTC

This is wonderful. Wow. Eugenia I think this is a great idea-and provided that other gnome/gtk developers sieze this oppurtunity you may just have made a significant contribution to the GNOME community. I trully hope that developers/hackers can take advantage of this new site to publicize their applications and libraries. I also hope that enough developers/hackers can appreciate what is being offered at this new site without the notorious OSNEWS flame wars playing a detrimental role-ie. developers reluctant to use to the site due to cross-association. I look forward to the development of this new site-and will in all likelihood frequent it quite often.

RE: that's nice
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:26 UTC

>Gnome apps and credit card ads. ;)

Someone's gotta pay the bills. Besides, that's why we are offering *free* advertising to four developers that will win the equivelant prize. This way, at least some of the ads will be really gnome-specific.

I haven't talked this at all with the GnomeFiles.org owner (you just gave me the idea ;) , but I might be able to persuade him to do rounds of free advertising every month for some listed apps. ;)

RE: that's nice
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:28 UTC

That sounds like a problem with your browser. Install a regex ad filter.

LOL :)
by clausi on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:52 UTC

You beat us with a few weeks distance. Congratulations!

http://gnome-apps.berlios.de/

v Rip off
by Hans on Wed 16th Jun 2004 20:57 UTC
v RE: Rip off
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 21:00 UTC
Hate Gnome, love GTK.
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 21:10 UTC

I don't like that gnome is so close to GTK. I like GTK apps, I love how they look and that they just need the GTK libs, but gnome apps need like a thousand terabytes in libs, that you must download and have wasting your RAM.
Long live GTK. Mmmm...good for gnome....

..
by Rod on Wed 16th Jun 2004 21:53 UTC

First of all, kudos for the initiative, it's great (although I use KDE, there are lots of Gnome apps I love, such as Pan).

I just think all that red characters in the middle are a bit hard to read, made my eyes feel tired, but maybe it's because I've been programming for 12 hours now ;)

RE: LOL :)
by Brandon Philips on Wed 16th Jun 2004 22:28 UTC

You beat us with a few weeks distance. Congratulations!

http://gnome-apps.berlios.de/

I like the layout of this site alot better.

It would be nice to see gnomeapps adopt this layout.

RE: LOL :)
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 22:57 UTC

>It would be nice to see gnomeapps adopt this layout.

That layout doesn't scale well for the amount of categories and subcategories we have on Gnomefiles. Also, that layout has "news", while we don't plan to make gnomefiles anything more than a software repository. Some news will be provided from Gnomedesktop's XML feed though, in the frontpage. There are two more sidebars I need to code...

feedback
by Doggedblues on Wed 16th Jun 2004 23:14 UTC

Well, we now have Gnome-look.org

http://www.gnome-look.org/

And given that the infrastructure and coding work for kde-apps.org has already been done and that the guy who created the site doesn't mind you using it, why don't you use that?

Additionally, it would be easier, i.e.,more mnemonic for people to remember. And both gnome-apps.org and kde-apps.org could link to each other.

Finally, the gnomefiles layout is pathetic. I hope this is not how it will look in its final incarnation. For someone who often critiques other's aesthetic sense, this page leaves a lot to be desired.


RE: feedback
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 23:22 UTC

Gnome-look is (currently) only for themes. Their site version that is for apps isn't out yet.

>the gnomefiles layout is pathetic

For something that was coded in the last 2 days, it's good enough. Overtime, we plan to beef it up. Other more important things are still broken before we go ahead and beautify it.

Again, the layout (not the aesthetics, these are different things) is similar to BeBits, so overtime Gnomefiles will look as good as well. I much prefer BeBits over *any* other software repository online today. It is fast to load, easy to render, makes sense.

Uhm...
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 23:34 UTC

Osnews.com managing and hosting gnomefiles.org, a news site with a wide range of areas which it should cover objectively and a software archive which is limited to a very small amount of software, is not a good idea in my opinion. Considering this even starts with "award prizes" for contributors avoiding a bias will be hard...

RE: Uhm...
by Eugenia on Wed 16th Jun 2004 23:40 UTC

Read the "moderated down" area for more info. There is no bias towards anything. We simply had a software repository engine, it was offline for 3 years, we decided to put it back up, we evaluated which platform needed it the most, and we went for it. There is no reason for unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. ;)

@Eugenia
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 23:55 UTC



Well. its well known fact that you like beos and gnome. so I dont think there is any conspiracy theory. its quite obvious. I dont think anybody needs to complain about this thou. I dont think Osnews is prejudiced.

Will you be making this software you code under any kind of open source license. just curious.

RE: RE: LOL :)
by Anonymous on Wed 16th Jun 2004 23:58 UTC

I Agree and the layout looks more like an official GNOME site.

freshmeat
by Chris on Thu 17th Jun 2004 00:17 UTC

"I don't see why we need this when we already have Freshmeat.net"
<humor>
It's obvious, gnomefiles has a nicer looking site than freshmeat.
</humor>

Thanks for your efforts.
by dpi on Thu 17th Jun 2004 01:10 UTC

It is good to see more 3rd party, GNOME-related websites up and running. This is indeed an area where KDE has an edge, and since it is part of quality & information, getting on part with the competitor -which improves quality of both- is a Good Thing.

Nice thing on the prices as well. I have a question on the prices: does the winner have to advertise for a GNOME-related application? What if it is a FLOSS one (LGPL)? How long does the offer stand? What if the application is still in alpha stage?

FM is getting pretty thick and don't accept some new applications. Some people get fed up with all the K/G frontend or "frontend" GUItjes so decentralizing this to other websites isn't necessarily bad. Also keep in mind, FM isn't the only software repository website. And finally regarding the banners: OSDN websites (includes FM) have those too. They're used to raise some profit for their hard work, but you can always disable banners in several ways if you prefer.

RE: Thanks for your efforts.
by Eugenia on Thu 17th Jun 2004 01:14 UTC

>does the winner have to advertise for a GNOME-related >application? What if it is a FLOSS one (LGPL)?

I guess it's fine. ;)

>How long does the offer stand?

As David pointed out, it will be a volume that's worth $50. I am not sure how many impressions that is as I don't deal with the ads on this site. David?

>What if the application is still in alpha stage?

This shouldn't be a problem if you are a winner. ;)

Looks like I'm in the minority
by Charlie on Thu 17th Jun 2004 01:38 UTC

I'm really glad to see gnomefiles.org go up. I think it is needed.

red
by johnMG on Thu 17th Jun 2004 03:13 UTC

Yes! Very bebits-like. I like it -- except like Rod said: too much red. ;)

I'd also like to have a way to search/browse by implementation language (C, C++, Java-GNOME, C#, Python, whatever).

The advertising prize
by David Adams on Thu 17th Jun 2004 03:53 UTC

As far as I'm concerned, whoever wins the advertising prizes will be able to advertise for anything that meets our minimum standards of decency and acceptablity. If you'd like to advertise your blog or use them to propose marriage to your significant other, that's fine.

EXCELLENT!!
by Anonymous on Thu 17th Jun 2004 04:51 UTC

I'm a Mac user who's switching off OS X after trying my friends Debian computer (running Gnome). Linux has everything I need and use, including great security, flexibility, is open and free and won't try to "lock me in" to anything. This site looks GREAT and I'm already bookmarking apps I'm interested in. Thanks!

Matt

RE: EXCELLENT!!
by CraHan on Thu 17th Jun 2004 08:06 UTC

Someone seems to have forgotten that you can run just about all linux software (including Gnome related apps) on OSX. Fink is one project thta cones to kind (fink.sf.net).

RE: EXCELLENT!!
by CraHan on Thu 17th Jun 2004 08:07 UTC

Oh my god... I really need to check my spelling before I post ;) . /me hides in shame.

Problems?
by Jim on Thu 17th Jun 2004 08:10 UTC

It seems that the site is flooded with "Helix Player" releases... Moreover, it is only accessible through gnomefiles.org/index.php, not gnomefiles.org

Interesting anyway :-)

One thing missing
by Kill Figo on Thu 17th Jun 2004 12:08 UTC

someone should add Gnome itself to the repository ;-)
some icons for each major category wouldn't hurt either ;)

ANNOUNCEMENT!
by urmensch on Thu 17th Jun 2004 13:45 UTC

ANNOUNCEMENT: Are you a Web Developer for OSNEWS?
Then, the fact that there is an announcement for a story on top of the page of that very same story is most certainly of interest to you.

GnomeSword?
by A.K.H. on Thu 17th Jun 2004 14:00 UTC

This has got to be the first time that a 'bible study' application has a made 'most popular' and 'best voted' lists. What gives? Are these placed votes or did that really happen?

Re: GnomeSword?
by Kill Figo on Thu 17th Jun 2004 14:17 UTC

They have internet on the Vatican too you know! Either that or it's a miracle :-D

Great
by Tyr on Thu 17th Jun 2004 16:30 UTC

Just what Gnome needs I think. Also I personally like the look. It's no nonsense and easy on the eyes, just like a site like this should be.
Well done!

RE:A.K.H. (IP: ---.nutnbut.net)
by BR on Thu 17th Jun 2004 18:19 UTC

"This has got to be the first time that a 'bible study' application has a made 'most popular' and 'best voted' lists. What gives? Are these placed votes or did that really happen?"

The Bible is suppose to be the most printed book out their. Anyway this new site is nice for answering the question "What apps are there for my Gnome dektop?"

re: GnomeSword?
by Anonymous on Thu 17th Jun 2004 18:21 UTC

Well I for one voted for it. And yes, that is a miracle. God's creations are all miracles.

Red Text
by Anonymous on Thu 17th Jun 2004 19:10 UTC

I love the site and am very appreciative that it is now here. However, the red text is distracting. Could this font color be changed? Also, I think the centering of the text in the "Software Categeories" section in the middle of the page is hard to follow. Other than these 2 suggestions, it looks great. Thanks!!

Red Text
by Anonymous on Fri 18th Jun 2004 00:24 UTC

I agree with the red being a bit much, and it's only getting worse with every added application. It is just a little over powering.

v OSnews.Org - The microsoft of newsreporting.
by Blergh on Fri 18th Jun 2004 02:55 UTC
I agree
by smurf975 on Fri 18th Jun 2004 15:26 UTC

I agree about the look and feel. Personally I like the look and feel of download.com and its ability to sort by the headers. Simtel has a new look and feel and its looking much better.

If the people from gnomefiles want to compare to other download sites they should check out this list: http://www.ehtml.com/shareware/