Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Wed 30th Jan 2008 09:50 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Geeks.com sent us in the 28" HannsG HG281DJB monitor for a review. This VGA/HDMI LCD monitor has an outstanding 1920x1200 resolution, making it good enough for both PC and TV usage.
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How about Portrait-Mode ?
by pg--az (1.28) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 10:03 UTC
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My Samsung 244t is now up to $800 at Amazon, I bought it for 500. Having gotten used to editing code with 1920 vertical pixels it would be difficult to go back.
It does not LOOK like this one has that big fat rear-swivel which lets it rotate into portrait-mode, or does it ?
For the price-difference, I think I would just use some duct-tape and cardboard to stand a cheaper monitor on its end, the video-card will rotate the image, hmm ?

RE: How about Portrait-Mode ?
by Eugenia (Staff) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 10:09 UTC in reply to "How about Portrait-Mode ?"
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No, HannsG's own swivel does not have rotation support. However, if you remove it and add a special VESA stand, you can rotate it. Yes, ATi/nVidia can rotate the picture.

cheap
by Schmeggma (1.96) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 10:29 UTC
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That's a fantastic price considering the size of the thing. Shame it's not noting to be anywhere near that cheap in the UK.

Did the 82dpi screen seem pixelated at all? I'm still a CRT man and that's one of the biggest issues for me with fixed resolution screens.

Bad dot pitch
by FunkyELF (2.56) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 15:07 UTC
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A monitor with this resolution should be 22.64" to get the same dot pitch of a 20" 1600x1200 monitor (exactly 100 pixels per square inch).

I know someone with a 12.1" laptop that does 1280x800 and it is beautiful (124.75 ppsi).
When I buy a laptop it will probably be a 15.4" 1680x1050.

Anyway, that is my benchmark....this thing is only 80.86 PPSI. Pretty bad, although not as bad as my 60" 1080P TV (36.72 PPSI)

RE: Bad dot pitch
by FunkyELF (2.56) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 16:01 UTC in reply to "Bad dot pitch"
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Replying to self....Can we not edit comments anymore?

Found out that 1920x1200 is about the max that DVI can support, so I guess if you want something that size you aren't going to get any better resolution without using two DVI ports on a single display.

RE[2]: Bad dot pitch
by Schmeggma (1.96) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 19:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Bad dot pitch"
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I'm not sure on this, but I was under the impression that "dual" DVI still used one cable, just with extra pins.

RE: Bad dot pitch
by burnttoy (1.72) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 17:13 UTC in reply to "Bad dot pitch"
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My, now ancient, Vaio T1XP has 1280 by 768 pixels on a 10.6" X-Black screen - utterly stunning. If only I could now get, say, a 21.2" display at 2560x1536 (LED backlit please)... maybe I can, but I bet I can't afford it!

Could use a bit more info
by anduril (1.96) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 17:03 UTC
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So what type of panel does this come with? What color depth does it display? Was there any ghosting when watching videos or playing games?

Not exactly much of a review...

RE: Could use a bit more info
by Eugenia (Staff) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 19:09 UTC in reply to "Could use a bit more info"
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>So what type of panel does this come with?

Excuse me, but did you read the review, or are you just trolling. It's a TFT panel. For more precise technical description, no one knows but the company itself.

>What color depth does it display?

32bit, what else? Do you think we live in 1995?

>Was there any ghosting when watching videos or playing games?

I mentioned that video watching was fine, and that was specifically mentioned. I don't play games anymore, sorry.

Edited 2008-01-30 19:17 UTC

RE[2]: Could use a bit more info
by anduril (1.96) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 19:18 UTC in reply to "RE: Could use a bit more info"
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I'm not trolling. I wanted to know if it was a TN panel like some of the other cheap 27-28in screens which would cause your viewing angle issues or whether it was a superior panel like PVA, IPS, etc.

In terms of color depth I actually ment bits, as in 6bit, 8bit, etc. Most of the nicer panels are 8bit, 16.7 million colors however the 6bit panels display far less and cause banding.

Those specs are important for me to look at a monitor. Granted, I could find them by digging through the manufacturers website or other reviews but its nice if thats actually in the review itself

RE[2]: Could use a bit more info
by bnolsen (1.72) on Fri 1st Feb 2008 05:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Could use a bit more info"
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Heh, if you review tech stuff don't get offended if people ask you perfectly relevant questions.

By reviewing stuff and putting it on a site like this you're in trouble if you can't identify basic questions someone might ask about the technology.

Those questions were perfectly valid!

RE[2]: Could use a bit more info
by WereCatf (3.84) on Fri 1st Feb 2008 06:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Could use a bit more info"
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As others have said; you shouldn't be so offended if someone asks for more information regarding something you review. If you can't give the answers then just say so instead of acting like someone just violated you and calling them trolls.. I wouldn't have known the answers to such questions either but I would have tried to find them out if I had made the review.

RE[3]: Could use a bit more info
by Eugenia (Staff) on Fri 1st Feb 2008 08:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Could use a bit more info"
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I get offended because it's the *second* time I am asked such questions for a monitor review and the second time I am targeted that way. I don't have such in-depth tech specs for the monitor. The review is a usage review, mostly from the video editing side (as this is my primary use for it). We got the review unit from a retailer, NOT the manufacturing company. Therefore, I can't just fire a question to HannsG's engineering dpt to answer such questions. What I wrote in the review, will have to do. Otherwise, feel free to email HannsG yourself and find the answer. I don't have the ability to do so.

Edited 2008-02-01 08:39 UTC

RE[4]: Could use a bit more info
by WereCatf (3.84) on Fri 1st Feb 2008 08:55 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Could use a bit more info"
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I get offended because it's the *second* time I am asked such questions for a monitor review and the second time I am targeted that way. I don't have such in-depth tech specs for the monitor.

Maybe not everyone read the previous review? And not everyone gets offended by just some basic questions... All you would have needed to do was say "Sorry.
I don't have such in-depth tech specs for the monitor." and be done with it.. >_>

RE: Could use a bit more info
by jjmckay (2.72) on Thu 31st Jan 2008 04:58 UTC in reply to "Could use a bit more info"
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My sentiments exactly. This is not a review but a 'brief hands on with my subjective impressions'.

review policy
by ihaveabuginmyeye (3.2) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 19:37 UTC
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I'll restate my unanswered question from other reviews on the site.
Are these free gifts given in exchange for a good review on OSNews or are they review units that have to be returned after the review? If they are free gifts then that should be stated in every review, otherwise it's just hidden advertising.

Viewing angle concern
by tyrione (2.64) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 21:49 UTC
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It's a 160/160 degree viewing angle monitor. If it were a 170/170 or 178/178 you'd be looking at over twice the cost for this product.

RE: Viewing angle concern
by steveh2005 (1.78) on Thu 31st Jan 2008 05:51 UTC in reply to "Viewing angle concern"
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The DoubleSight DS-245W is a superior monitor. It has the Samsung S-PVA panel with 90 deg rotating stand, giving you the 178/178 viewing angles with TRUE 8-bit color (no dithering like the 6-bit cheaper TN panels with 160/160 angles). It comes with a 3 year warranty. I noticed that the geeks.com Hanns 28" is a refurbrished monitor with a 90 day warranty (you're taking a lot of risk for that kind of money).

After rebate and shipping, total cost from newegg.com for me was $457 and got one with no dead pixels.

True, the DoubleSight doesn't have HDMI inputs, but then again, I'm using this as a computer monitor with DVI input, not a television.

Comment by dukes
by dukes (1.56) on Wed 30th Jan 2008 23:50 UTC
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I bet this monitor is bunk. Probably has all kinds of contrast ratio problems. Tempted I was at first until I saw the price. That's too cheap for a decent 28" Widescreen. There a reason why they are all listed as "Refurbished" at this store.

I'll stick with my 2ms Samsung 22" for now.

RE: Comment by dukes
by bousozoku (2.92) on Thu 31st Jan 2008 19:09 UTC in reply to "Comment by dukes"
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I bet this monitor is bunk. Probably has all kinds of contrast ratio problems. Tempted I was at first until I saw the price. That's too cheap for a decent 28" Widescreen. There a reason why they are all listed as "Refurbished" at this store.

I'll stick with my 2ms Samsung 22" for now.


It's a low density display taking up a lot of space and that's likely why it's priced as it is. Most people won't care whether it has decent pixel density or not. They'll see 28 inches and the price and they'll place an order.

I've seen a lot of 22 inch LCDs going for more than the 20 inch LCDs also at 1680x1050 but the 20 inch panels are generally better for graphics and photo work.

Oh, and surprise, surprise, this review is 8/10. Funny how these people never send anything that will get a 3/10 rating.

It is actually pretty good.
by Kokopelli (3.2) on Thu 31st Jan 2008 01:20 UTC
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Before you pigeon hole this monitor into the low quality bin I strongly recommend you see it in person if you can. Best Buy and Microcenter both carry them in the U.S..

If you want DPI or fir use strictly as a workstation then you can go for 24" monitor for a hundred or so U.S. dollars less. I do not find the real estate or experience all too different between the 24" nd the 28" as a workstation. The main appeal in the 28" screen is that you can get back a bit further. I use it as the primary monitor on my home workstation as well as a TV, for which it performs admirably,

I am partially color blind so not the best judge of colors but based on reviews it can achieve very good color reproduction with proper calibration.

Edited 2008-01-31 01:24 UTC

Rez
by Anyone (0.67) on Thu 31st Jan 2008 14:20 UTC
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Ya ya ya

1920x1200 @60 HZ
Looked into this in Dec. After sifting through all the "Bad Ass" info. Finally found this spec.