"It looks like the Haiku Webkit port initiated by Ryan Leavengood has entered a productive second stage of development, and thanks to the recent work by one of the new project team members, Andrea 'xeD' Anzani, tangible progress has been made as shown by the recent screenshot showing the HaikuLauncher application rendering bebits.com. I was curious about his work, so I went directly to the source and asked a few questions to Andrea; here are his answers." On a related note, Haiku now has a new nightly build archive.
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Meanwhile you can use Links, which now display graphics under Haiku:
http://joomla.iscomputeron.com/index.php?option=com_content&tas...
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i just dont see how haiku/beos will keep going if it really takes such effort to port something so easily portable.
amazing work and my criticism is not targeted at the developers in any way but at the platform and its direction.
its my understanding that a lot of legacy stuff (old apps) need to keep working.
Edited 2007-12-23 18:42
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Are you really sure it's so easily portable? Don't misunderstand me, please, I don't intend to be offensive. I think that the portability of such a complex framework depends on the dependencies (sorry!) with the "external" software modules used by the code.
BeOS is such a different platform, it "lacks" some of the required packages or API functions (because it follows a different approach, being *completely* object oriented, with a different API). So the developers have to implement a lot of glue code (I think!) and this is the difficult part.
Thanks for all the time spent by those invaluable developers for the steady continuous improvement to Haiku.
Edited 2007-12-23 19:14
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Webkit is quite portable, for a browser. You can emphasize the first part of that sentence, or the last. Still, it's not exactly news that it's more difficult to port programs to Haiku, because the OS's API is fairly different from most others. That's really what makes Haiku interesting, though.
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Yeah it's really, really annoying... I'm trying to find out who added it on #haiku and see if they can restrict the animation to the header img or something, as it makes reading the text quite annoying at the moment :/.
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Yeah it's really, really annoying... I'm trying to find out who added it on #haiku and see if they can restrict the animation to the header img or something, as it makes reading the text quite annoying at the moment :/.
What version of Bah Humbug are you using? ;-)
Looking forward to this. I've just spent the morning trying to get the BONE version of Firefox running on my Haiku partition. I've edited UserSetupEnvironment but it's moaning about .so.stub files. And of course, I hear it doesn't run for long even when it runs...
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The stubs was a trick to get round the limited addon memory (32MB for all apps) that BeOS had. Additional libs will be loaded to that memory, but by only loading stubs that were linked to the real libs none of that to limited memory was used.
If it don't find the stub library it loads the real library, which is ok under Haiku.
Btw IMO don't edit the startup-script. Repackage:
http://community.livejournal.com/bezilla/255563.html
Also this is what you can expect:
http://community.livejournal.com/bezilla/257711.html
Edited 2007-12-25 09:35
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@TQH, umccullough
Thanks for the information. The launch must be failing after that, then. I don't suppose this debug output gives any clue?
Loaded symbols for /boot/beos/apps/firefox/components/libxpinstall.so
[tcsetpgrp failed in terminal_inferior: Invalid Argument]
[Switching to team ./firefox (175) thread firefox (175)]
0x0165353d in PR_NewPollableEvent () from /boot/home/config/lib/libnspr4.so
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Sidenote: That's funny. I keep hearing how platforms utilizing Konqueror for instance has been ready for the desktop for years, and now I hear that rendering a normal website is a problem. Wow, that's amazing!
Gee, guess 2k8 will also be a year of the rumours of "being ready"....
Mainnote: It's great seeing options and improvements happening all over the place in the Haiku world. I personally would've hoped to see Alpha R1 before Christmas, but that didn't happen. Anyway, you can't have it all, and concluding that it won't happen in 2k7, I'm more sure than ever that Haiku will start pondering Alphas under 2k8. Meaning basically, it'll be the year where a real Win/Osx alternative was born, even though it will take plenty of more years for maturity!