Star New FreeBSD Foundation Newsletter Published
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Dec 2007 18:36 UTC, submitted by Joel Dahl
FreeBSD There is a new edition of the FreeBSD Foundation newsletter. "The innovation of the past lives on in FreeBSD. From SMP and network scalability to innovations in security APIs and wireless networking, the technology of FreeBSD is making an impact on our world. What future piece of BSD technology will help foster a new public commodity like the Internet? I can't say, but the past shows us that investing in open source OS development and its commercial use pays large dividends. The two testimonials in this newsletter from Isilon and Network Appliance show this process at work."
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Absolute FreeBSD
by anomie (4) on Tue 18th Dec 2007 19:15 UTC
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Only because they mention the auction in the newsletter, I wanted to throw in a quick comment on Absolute FreeBSD: the book is fantastic and thorough. Mr. Lucas is able to keep ~700 pages of content interesting with a rather dry sense of humor.

Might be a good Christmas gift for your favorite BSD geek. ;) I got mine early this year.

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Absolute NetBSD
by project_2501 (2.76) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 05:12 UTC in reply to "Absolute FreeBSD"
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I'm still waiting for Absolute NetBSD ... http://www.absolutenetbsd.com/

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v Where does the money go?
by marafaka (2.08) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 08:46 UTC
RE: Where does the money go?
by Oliver (3.08) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 09:37 UTC in reply to "Where does the money go?"
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>I think you do owe a great deal to the FSF

Don't be silly! We're talking of BSD, not GNUish applications. Vice versa it's true, there wouldn't be even an internet without BSD.

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v RE[2]: Where does the money go?
by marafaka (2.08) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 10:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Where does the money go?"
RE[3]: Where does the money go?
by BluenoseJake (2.76) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 13:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Where does the money go?"
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If you use BSD, and want to give money, they would be the ones that you give money to. BSD uses it's own userland, and only uses the GNU toolchain for compiling. It can use GNU software, but it doesn't have to.

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RE[4]: Where does the money go?
by marafaka (2.08) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 19:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Where does the money go?"
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Jake, your reply is all good, and everything. I just don't want to support the digital entertainment dealers and this puts me in a difficult position. I'll toss the coin and try to keep a low profile.

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v RE[2]: Where does the money go?
by Moulinneuf (2.72) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 12:55 UTC in reply to "RE: Where does the money go?"
RE[3]: Where does the money go?
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 17:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Where does the money go?"
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Listen, choice is what all Free Software is based on.

Let people develop for whatever they want
Let people use whatever they want

Let people just believe and work with what they will and leave them alone - how could people supporting BSD hurt anything or hurt anyone?

Jeeze...chill out

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v RE[4]: Where does the money go?
by Moulinneuf (2.72) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 22:15 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Where does the money go?"
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v I disagree
by Moulinneuf (2.72) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 13:06 UTC
RE: I disagree
by BluenoseJake (2.76) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 16:12 UTC in reply to "I disagree"
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"Investing in BSD is a waste of time , money , ressource and equipment. The BSD are neither gratefull for the gift they receive nor are they changing there way in order to survive in the era to come , in order to be self sustained projects. "

Investing in reading your posts is "is a waste of time , money , ressource and equipment"

The BSD family is a rock solid, stable and secure alternative to Windows and Linux. I prefer it over Linux, would take it over Windows any day of the week, and OS X wouldn't be OS X without it.

"Investing in BSD is a waste of time , money , ressource and equipment. The BSD are neither gratefull for the gift they receive nor are they changing there way in order to survive in the era to come , in order to be self sustained projects. "

Uh, all the BSDs are moving forward, NetBSd 4.0 was just released, FreeBSD 7 is in late Beta, and OpenBSD is still one of the most secure, stable OSs in existence.

Linux wouldn't even have a proper SSH server if it wasn't for OpenSSH, which is directly produced by OpenBSD.

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RE: I disagree
by jason_w (1) on Thu 20th Dec 2007 21:44 UTC in reply to "I disagree"
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So in summary, BSD is dead and no longer relevant? I think you're misinformed or are you referring to BSDi? Please see below. BSD is alive and well in the server market. Linux and BSD camps are allies, and each has its strengths and place in the OS marketplace. NB - the BSD license has less restrictions than the GPL. It's a waste of energy to argue over who's freer.

Invest in whatever OS works for you.

Netcraft survey of servers with the longest uptimes:

1 wwws.br-online.de FreeBSD Apache/1.3.26 (Unix)
2 www.root102.co.uk Windows Server 2003 unknown
3 home.iijnet.or.jp BSD/OS Apache IIJ Internet
4 fp002.crayfish.net Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0
5 cgi01.indigo.ie FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.16
6 www.whistle2.indigo.ie FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.16
7 www.indigo.ie FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.16
8 www.whistle1.indigo.ie FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.16
9 mary.indigo.ie FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.16
10 www.whistle3.indigo.ie FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.16
11 www.africanamericanwestproject.com BSD/OS Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
12 www.dogtagsonline.com unknown Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
13 www.virtualmodelshop.com BSD/OS Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
14 www.empowerfin.com BSD/OS Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
15 www.ashcottelectrical.com BSD/OS Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
16 hccsnet.org BSD/OS Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
17 www.superjetco.com BSD/OS Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10
18 tgpsubmit.persiankitty.com FreeBSD Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) PHP/3.0.11
19 www.macmic.net IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
20 www.sjsmdn.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
21 www.neuro-t.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
22 www.n-sysdes.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
23 oroshidanchi.or.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
24 www.nhk-p.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
25 www.hios.com IRIX unknown
26 www.bestcom.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
27 www.higashi-nipponbank.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
28 www.pacific.npb.or.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
29 www.senkojushi.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
30 www.twsg.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
31 spha.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
32 www.sbcjp.comIRIX Rapidsite/Apa
33 www.meteora.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
34 nbc-web.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
35 www.sakuraproduction.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
36 rematec.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
37 www.nbc-web.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
38 www.pittcc.edu Windows Server 2003 Netscape-Enterprise/4.1
39 www.origin.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
40 www.med.helsinki.fi Windows Server 2003 unknown
41 www.medhelp.nu Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0
42 www.i-lec.co.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
43 www.Reisen-zu-traumhaften-Preisen.de Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0
44 www.simc.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
45 www.flower.ac.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
46 www.shii.gr.jpIRIX Rapidsite/Apa
47 www.iwaki-koukoshiryoukan.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
48 www.ammonite-center.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
49 www.numazu-cci.or.jp IRIX Rapidsite/Apa
50 www.okinawa.iij.ad.jp BSD/OS Apache

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FreeBSD 7 RC1?
by chrish (1.8) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 13:35 UTC
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I was hoping for a FreeBSD 7 update in there, since I didn't know what the FreeBSD Foundation was. I wanted to get RC1 as an early Giftmas present! ;-)

- chrish

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Click the link to see where the money goes
by jackson (3.16) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 14:07 UTC
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Um, click the link to the report, scroll down to the bottom, and there are links to the financial reports where you can read about there the money goes. Is that so hard?

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Strange
by reflect (2.2) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 20:58 UTC
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It's funny how people bicker between the various distributions out there - I mean, we'd all benefit if we could unite and stop the bickering. To me, choose whatever you want, anything is better than Microsoft Windows (but that's just me). For every person that picks an 'alternative OS' there's one less Windows user - which is especially great if it's a developer or someone who contributes in some other way.

The only area I wish the BSDs would improve upon is the fileserver area. Perhaps that has been fixed now with the introduction of ZFS into FBSD, but for a long time it was a hassle to set up a large fileserver with any of the BSDs out there (limited max partition size, no decent volume manager, etc).

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RE: Strange
by Oliver (3.08) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 21:47 UTC in reply to "Strange"
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>anything is better than Microsoft Windows (but that's just me).

BSD isn't about hating Microsoft. BSD just doesn't care about it.

>to set up a large fileserver with any of the BSDs

What are you talking about? Long time ago? 199x? gvinum, ...

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RE[2]: Strange
by reflect (2.2) on Wed 19th Dec 2007 21:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Strange"
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Well, iirc, there was a 2TB (or if it was 4, can't remember) filesystem limit when I tried the last time, but I may confuse things with either OpenBSD or NetBSD. This was ~2 years ago, so not very long ago.

My comment wasn't about hating Microsoft, it's about "I don't care what you use, but if you use an alternative OS, all the better for all of us".

Edited 2007-12-19 22:03

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trolling or simple ignorance?
by nullpt (3.44) on Thu 20th Dec 2007 12:26 UTC
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No people on BSD?

On June/2004 netcraft reported 5 MILLION freebsd hostnames and it was growing in a steady fashion.

This is only the internet (Freebsd is also used internaly). This is only freebsd (there are plenty of bsds and bsd based systems out there (more than linux..)). This are only the servers that netcraft can identify as freebsd (yes, many admins like me don't like to give away server specs).

You morons need to read and learn about what you're talking about.

Peace

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