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It's really to bad that there is no commercial support for the MKV container format. Most of H264 encoded videos tend to be in MKV, very few people actually use MP4/MOV, especially.
I can't wait for the day when there will be commercial DVR/PMP solution that can play anything you throw at it (or at least has an pen API for which people can write codecs).
1.) Hard drive is a must, user expandable, not locked in.
2.) MKV support, a lot of things going this way. (Tvix from DviCO can handle that now.)
3.) High Def recording and playback, HDMI out.
4.) The ability to play ISO's. Very handy to turn DVD into an ISO and have it mount, have all the features, menus, bonus material.
5.) Wireless would be sweet too, few players have that, even as an additional break out box.
6.) Ditch the bright Orange buttons on remote, makes it look a tad stupid.
7.) A slimline DVD Player, all these players never include it, some people actually still use DVD's, be nice to have one that you can actually play the discs. Self copying would be good, but probably be illegal with the copy protection.
There you go, take your pick.
Edited 2007-11-06 01:33
things this fine box still needs are the obvious ones:
- Ogg vorbis/theora support
- HDTV capability
- cable/sat/terristic tuner addons
- recording from firewire/ dv in
- included webbrowser (it has ethernet) for yooou2b
- ooh shit looking at the specs: it has that *g
- oops it has the vorbis, too
- wow there's a looot of nice stuff crammed in those 230 grams
- EPG missing though..
- (fast!) snapshot functionality
- is this usable by adults/seniors? I'm sure my grandpa would love it
this is almo^H^H^H^H the nice cool open-source version of a VCR anyone would want to have.. niiccce, nicccce.. X)
My missing feature:
Wikipedia integration
One of the things I love about Amarok is the Wikipedia integration. For everything that is being played you are only one click away from Wikipedia, that will tell you everything about the artist, album and song.
It would be wonderfull to have the same capabilities in a video device.
IMDB integration would be the next logical step.
1) Well, I think that Karaoke support will be a plus that can be added on the firmware. mp3+g support will be nice. I guess that you can connect a Mic on the input, not sure about USB Mics.
2)It will be nice if you can view the IPWebCams on your network in your TV thought the ethernet port of this device.
Software feature: Ability to connect a DVD drive for burning your old VCR tapes and other older media to DVD's.
Hardware Feature: Add a 1394/Firewire port to do the same with your Mini-DV home movies since many of those recorders have 1394 ports.
With those 2 features, my wife would knock down the store clerk (even those at Amazon) to get one.
-Josh
I see no mention of tv listings on the site, but this is a must. I also agree on the HD support being needed, along with a builtin tuner (with the built in tuner being the most important).
Seriously, the PVR space is sorely lacking at the moment due to the heavily controlled options that are available.
Support ogg audio. Simple.
It's a free, open standard with superior quality.
"Win, win, win" as Michael Scott would say.
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Edit: Sorry, I noticed that it does support Ogg Vorbis further down the specs page.
My new suggestion is: Update your 'table of supported formats'.
Edited 2007-11-06 02:24
Listening to some music and think its cool? Hit a thumbs up icon... the box links up with blah-blah-blah network and posts your approval. It then fetches data of other people who felt the same way and returns other things they liked.
Feel like telling everyone just why you think this song rules? Post a comment! Then, when others are getting their list of things you thought were cool, they can see why and see if it matches something they would like.
Maybe not into music? Do the same for tv... for movies... for emulated games.
If there is a free (and legal) way to get these things, give the user a link to grab it.
Not up to writing a network yourself? piggyback off of someone else's social engine and give it a fresh clean interface!
Considering that this thing will be attached to a network and wil have some sort of storage, it would be nice if it could stream media to the network.
It should be powerful enough to stream audio using daap or slimserver. Streaming video using rtp would be cool if the hardware is up to it.
The ability to program the recorder over the network would be handy too.
Well, I've always been a fan of flac, but I don't suppose it's the best format to support with such a device, but I have had a hankering to put a box in front of my tv to catch some of the digital radio stuff I don't get locally and keep them on my pc for later listening.
Maybe a good web interface, so that you can programme it remotely.
The two main features that are missing on this product (in order of importance)
1. Full D1 Video Recording (640x480 is great but you need to do full D1)
2. Cablecard support - This way you can uttilize a digital cable tuner and decode the video right off cable TV.
There are also 2 ideas that are secondary elements
1. itunes streaming so we have no need for the apple product.. iTV or whatever it is called
2. Free to Air tuner support so we can pick up the free clear channels over sat.
The following would be my wish lists (some may already exist but I didn't see it on the review):
- DVI output
- NTP
- Customisable interface / GUI
- Choice of a more whiter coloured shell / skin.
- Timeshift? (play back whilst recording, pause / resume playback whilst continued recording)
Video recording from any analog source is good, but you may want to watch videos you download from google video/youtube as well as divx files, but what happens when you have just a remote and a 500GB drive, let's say you have like 1500 videos, and that you're an anime fan, you'll need to properly categorize everything not just by the anime title and chapters, but for genre as well, so in the end you want to have some sort of tag system so users can access the videos they want as fast as they can.
Also try to improve the virtual keyboard, maybe some predictive text algorithms can be useful there.
BTW, since the remote is the primary input device and the OSD has an ethernet port, how come it does not have a web interface? A REST-like API for remote programming would be really nice as well.
Another good feature would be to implement some MAME-like engine so you could play your favorite games, and of course have that USB port to plug in your favorite controller.
What happened with Bonjour/Zeroconf support?
Don't know if this is already possible, but for playback it would be nice to save the video state so you could watch from the point you left it at any other time.
I think it would be nice to be able to use the OSD with other media remotes such as the Logitech Harmony line in tandem with a very nice home theatre setup. It would be especially nice if you had the OSD networked with a media box in lieu of a full full blown httpc.
1) Implementing DLNA protocol either for server and/or client. For example the Neuros OSD could then be used to record TV show and then they could be played back via the PS3 (in this case the Neuros OSD will act as the server and the PS3 will be the client).
2)Printing functions for the picture viewer. For example you are checking some photos and then like some of them and decide to print them (just plug in the printer into the USB port).
3) Adding different slideshow presentation for showing picture. Let the user have different option on the way he want to present his picture (disolving effect, fade in/fade out, etc...).
4) Special pause function, for example you are watching your favorite TV program and then something urgent come up and you have to stop to watch. Simply press the LIVE pause button which will then start to record while you are away. Once you come back you click PLAY and then continue to where you were before leaving ;-).
This is a few of my idea for now.
I think it would be nice if it could run a ftp daemon, at which you could upload movies to the external harddrive hooked up through the USB interface. At that point you could watch the movie off the hardddrive. Personally I would hate having to move a HD back and forth. So scenario would go as this:
1. Download movie from PC
2. Upload to external HD through FTP
3. Watch movie on external HD
Well just a note to start off with it does have ogg support! Some need to read the specs before posting.
I would suggest not a hard drive, but the simple option to purchase a normal external hard drive with the box. This way if a non-techie is buying, and does not have a hard drive, it is easy for them to get one that they know will work well with it.
A second would be a web interface to stream through, or at least some application from a computer that can set it to stream a file and then go to the other room and start it. A web interface would be accessible from almost any OS and would not require any install process. But some way to easily stream without a hard drive or a 3rd party video streaming software.
I have two ideas. A browser similar to the wii's could be cool as well, allowing the neuros to do way more (and hey! you could even hook it up to a wiimote and implement the opera Wii JS apis!)
On a similar note, an interface into the Miro content would be really nice. Miro (formerly democracy) has some phenomenal content that would be really amazing if accessible from my couch. Its 100% open source, and it would add a huge amount of content to the Neuros experience, as well as give Miro fans a hardware device for their living room.
Edited 2007-11-06 03:53
The ability to store digital music and play it back through a home theatre system. Visualizations on your TV would be great too.
Oh and this will probably never happen but would be cool: ship it with zsnes and gamepad support so we can play video games on it too. A cool ROM organizer where we could just go in and pick a game and it would launch with zsnes and start playing as if we were using a real super nintendo. The same goes for other emulators of course. 
I think support for USB wi-fi adapters would be a good addition. Also support for USB DVB-T, DVB-S adapters.
I would also like to be able to store some "favourite" internet radio/tv stations for easy access, or type in an IP address to connect.
I couldn't discover whether it did this already or not, but bookmarks (from any source) for favourite music or videos would be handy.
Can it record one thing while playing back a different video? Or do time-shifting (pause live video and resume later)? If not, those are must-haves.
That idea for inbuilt video games is a good one too! :-)
Edited 2007-11-06 04:13
1. How about visual effects while playing music, so I can project the video out onto a wall for parties?
2. Gapless playback, including decent crossfades and BPM-matching is another idea.
3. A serial port or USB-serial adaptor support, so we can control the device remotely.
4. The ability to remotely control the unit via LAN.
Edited 2007-11-06 08:38
1. Wireless support with WPA encryption, but not only so it can connect to your home lan, but also so if you have more than one OSD, say one downstairs connected to a hard drive, and one upstairs without a hard drive, each OSD will automatically see each other and share files, so you can browse the files on the osd with the hard drive from the one without it.
2. Mame emulator so you can play some light video games, along with support for a usb gamepad or two.
3. Built in mythtv front end and back end support, so it can serve as either.
4. Enough built in flash ram, say 8gb, so you can transfer a few important videos onto the device and carry it with you without having to take a usb hard drive or carry removable memory cards.
5. Support for bluetooth keyboards plus a full web browser so you can surf the internet.
6. Ability to connect to a variety of music servers, like daap, gnump3d, or mpd.
Would be nice if the device had a built in wireless card for a wireless connection to the network.
Specs:
Atheros or Broadcom
Open/WEP/WPA/WPA2
Possibility of a third party antenna for long distances
This unit would be good to use at commercial establishments, especially where I work.
Also, perhaps some type of Bluetooth Host or other new technology. I realize using stable technology is good, but we must make leaps. Maybe it would be possible to connect phones to the device so you can upload vids to devices. A normal vid on my 3.5" player is 70-120M
Edited 2007-11-06 04:34
I like it, but it would be really cool (and probably pretty simple) to integrate a good RSS aggregator and podcast/videocast manager.
iTunes-style music management, or even full DAAP support, would be awesome, too.
Also, support for internet radio would be nice.
The hardware is good; I just think the software could use a few extras.
I've long thought being able to edit dvds would be cool.
My thought would be that you could have a smallish file which would describe a number of edits which would be made real time by the device. The device could remove certain scenes (i.e. Jar Jar) or perhaps mix in deleted scenes or perhaps even insert a random scene from some other dvd or youtube.
The idea being that you could swap these "edits" via the internet. Ideally it could be a sort of viral marketing thing.
I don't know the legal situation with such an item would be, but I wonder whether it might be a legal way to distribute edits as opposed to what must be done now.
1st off, I like the parents idea a lot.
I would love to see video bookmarking so that whatever the media (dvd, video, or audio file) a person could bookmark a spot at in a specific place. Think about it-- not only would you be able to recall favorite parts of something, but could search the bookmark metadata to find, mix, and match highlights.
FWIW, MPlayer has such a feature built-in. It allows you to create a text file with a name based on the name of the movie file, in which you can specify time ranges where the sound, the image or both will be omitted/skipped. It's pretty cool because you can throw this file next to the movie on the CD or DVD and if the kids watch it and don't know how to bypass it you have instant parent control.
First off, let me say that this seems like a nice product. Currently I have an original Xbox running XBMC (http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/) I also have a PS3.
1. MythTV
I'd like to see some MythTV support built in. I saw UPnP support listed but it didn't specify client or server. Hopefully its both since MythTV can serve content over UPnP.
But full support would be better so that you can delete recordings after you have watched them or possibly schedule recordings on there.
2. Podcasts
I use a little script called myth2ipod (http://myth2ipod.com/) which lets you convert recorded shows to iPod format directly from MythTV. This script puts together a podcast which iTunes can use directly. You can schedule such conversions per show. This is an important feature for me. For example I have a show that I like on Sunday nights that is on too late for me to see. I have allergy shots that I get on Mondays. All I need to do is leave my iPod plugged into my Windows machine with iTunes up and go to bed.
Once the show is recorded it is transcoded and the feed is updated. Itunes notices it eventually and puts it on my Video iPod. The next morning I bring my iPod with me to the Dr's office and I have something to watch while I wait.
3. Editing
It would be nice to be able to record an hour of MTV, VH1, CMT or whatever music video channel you like and be able to break up that recording into multiple clips.
MythTV doesn't have that capability. You can edit recordings in MythTV to cut out everything except one video so to get all of them is an iterative process.
So there is one thing you can go and implement that MythTV can't do yet ;-)
Hope this helps.
Now I have to go see what e-mail address I have on file here!
~Eric
It seem everyone as Youtube browsing , what about getting there competitor as a differentiator from the other products on the market :
Flickr integration/browser :
http://www.flickrbits.com/
Moo integration and there partners :
http://www.moo.com/uploader/partners.php
Metacafe integration/browser :
http://www.metacafe.com/
Tudou integration/browser :
http://www.tudou.com/
Hulu integration/browser :
http://www.hulu.com/
Ebay and Craiglist browsing.
Stumbleupon :
http://www.stumbleupon.com/
http://web2list.com/logo.php?tag=video
http://www.go2web20.net/
If you want to product to get momentum and let is become more popular under developers you should include the possibility to write add-ons in moderns languages like Java or Mono. This will surely make it more interesting for developers to purchase one and add functionality. All the new functionality will attract more customers.
over-all the whole product looks good in terms of functionality provided. as far as new features are concerned, I'll concentrate on features with minimum cost but better effects. That forces me to minimise the inclusion of hardware based features
apart from making it compatible to record videos directly to IPOD, here is my main idea.
turn OSD to a video chatting device:
this device is network ready and does conenct to internet. this device is usb ready and can recognize the device connected. why not implement in firmware to identify and work with some generic web cam and include a mic(or maybe plug-in one through RCA).
also, if feasible, a mic/webcam integrated version of product can be marketed seperately. also a proprietry/dedicated web service can be provided for this sake. all depends on company policies and how far they want to go.
really, a product for an end user as easy to operate as OSD is, allowing video chat as cheap as on internet, can make a real big difference in the market.
I just hope that i am able to make sense of my idea.
Edited 2007-11-06 06:33
I read a few mentions about needing a hdd inside this thing. I'd rather see a capability in it to mount a remote share and/or storage, via smb and/or nfs. I see it has usb, does it support external hdds ? Either way, there would be no limitation in what sized hdd a user could throw at it, and in either cases you wouldn't need internal hdd, power supply change, heating considerations, etc.
The audio capabilities seem to support a lot of formats already, but the status quo "here's a list of audio files" just won't do. How about making a tag-based browser that automatically downloads cover art? (This should be able to be turned off, however, because some people hate tag-based browsing.) That should show AppleTV a thing or two.
I also totally agree with the above posters on internet radio and music visualizations! Web browsing would also be incredible, but might be harder to implement.
Edited 2007-11-06 07:41
What about some kind of Party Mode. I'd like my ripped CD's to play at my party with normalized volume level and with some kind of playlist, so that I won't have to bother with it during the party.
Maybe it's even possible to play music based of favourite level (added through the UI) and genre (from the ID3 tag).
Cheers, Bubbel
There are many interesting online services that provides Creative commons licensed music either for free, or free full previews with the option of purchasing a higher quality version.
Making this content easily available by streaming and downloads to the users, not only adds a huge amount of compelling content to the OSD, right out of the box, but also helps promote the artists and open music industry in general.
Two sites in particular, Jamendo.com and Magnatune.com, already provides the API's needed for such an integration and are integrated in several free software programs already, and more sites are opening up their catalogs in similar ways.
( Disclaimer: I wrote the Magnatune integration for Amarok1 and am working on integrating more services into the upcoming Amarok2. I have also recently been hired by Magnatune.com, to work on Amarok2 among other things )
Oh, and as another idea, the shoutcast.com internet radio directory service also provides an API for integrating all their radio stations ( many 1000's, sorted by genre ) into 3rd party applications. Again, this would add a huge amount of content to the device right out of the box!
( You can never have enough content! :-)
Edited 2007-11-06 08:36
• Playback videos on ftp/nfs/sftp network share
• Support for connecting external dvd player
• IMDB browser (easily look up some info about the media you're watching)
• Support for browsing pictures on a mobile phone over bluetooth (using a usb bluetooth adapter, for example)
• Last.fm support
• Support for sharing connected hard disks and other storage devices over the network
• Ability to run some external apps (small games, etc)
• Bittorrent client (leave it on instead of your noisy computer)
• Rss support (simple feed reader) and a news ticker
• Video reencoding, if you have a file from an external source, it should be able to convert it to psp/ipod/etc formats, not just with recorded video (didn't find if it can do that already)
• Video/Music/Image tagging
• Support for reading comic books / manga (open zip/rar files, show two pages at the same time)
• Streaming audio/video recording
• Video screenshot and mailing support (ever found an easter egg on a show and wanted to send it to a friend?)
Edited 2007-11-06 08:36
Now people are getting networks in their homes, it would be great if these things gained fixed storage and were aware of each other on the network. You could then set up zones (bedroom, living room, etc) much like sonos players, but for video too. A slick web UI would let you control them from any device, including the nokia internet tablets (so no activex), and they could cleverly sync data between them in a similar manner to appleTV does from iTunes.
The media browser needs to be much cleverer when reading remote shares; it needs to index my music share and know about the albums and artists on it, then present either the album listings with album art attached, or solely use the album art to display my music collection. See the UKMP application for the N800/810 for a great cover browsing solution. The Neuros needs the wow factor - maybe even stored thumbnails/DVD art for movies on my network too. With all that metadata available, I'd also expect to be able to browse my music/videos by year, artist, genre, etc too.
The legalities of a built in RSS torrent downloader are questionable, but it would be great if the device could automatically go and download content, then make it available to any other neuros on the network - saving the use of NAS devices etc, where you don't necessarily want to keep a TV show once you've watched it.
Another idea is to approach the BBC and Channel4 in the UK. They are currently offering streaming services to Windows users, and struggling to get decent software out there for linux/mac etc. Having the BBC and C4 TV archive available through an attractive show browser would be a great bonus for the Neuros, making it a true consumer device, and completely taking the software out of the equation.
Finally, I may be the only one who'd want the Neuros out of sight, but two wall mounting lugs on the back, along with a suitable mechanism (extended IR cable, bluetooth remote etc) for remote control, would be a bonus.
I'd like to see more audio support. Specifically Monkey's Audio and Shorten. I've got a good amount of music encoded in Monkey's Audio (.ape). I also have a few Shorten audio files (.shn) from the Live Music Archive at archive.org.
On that note, I'd like to be able to browse and watch free media, like the stuff at archive.org, or what ever is available with Miro (formerly Democracy Player) wikimedia, and creative commons.
Do the remote control button glow in the dark ? I'd like to see that feature. Also, a button that would page the remote. The remote always ends up in some strange place.
Firewire connectivity. Most cable boxes allow you to connect them to the computer and capture the video.
Alternatively, coaxial cable for analog with cablecard and QAM support. That would be nice. VGA recording and pass-through, too. Not really that concerned with this one.
It's been said before, but HD playback at 1080p.
Get the community to do the work for you. What better way to get new ideas, than have people hack your product in new ways.
Now in bullet-point style.
Lossless audio formats.
#Monkey's Audio
#Shorten
#other formats oddball or official formats (which few use) like optimfrog, MPEG-4 ALS, La, Apple lossless and WMA lossless
Online content
#archive.org
#Miro (formerly Democracy Player)
#wikimedia
#creative commons
#google video and video search
remote control
# glow in the dark buttons
# remote pager (am i sitting on it?)
or ability to operate it without a remote at all (web interface?)
more ports or features (is that possible?)
# Firewire connectivity.
# alt. coaxial cable
#cablecard
#QAM support
lastly
#HD 1080p (in the future anyway)
#Community, make cool software mods for us
Take this ( http://www.neurostechnology.com/files/products/osd/osd_large-3.png ) image in the product homepage and do it again with better text color and font.
Also, drop the idea of grayed words.
"Eliminate .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. video at your fingertips" doesn't seem as attractive as you probably intended.
I'd add gigabit wireless ethernet support, support for recording from a webcam device, and potentially the ability to record from more than one device at a time. Maybe having a main box on one television and then little wireless nodes that can go around the house and can all communicate and transmit video/sound to and from the main box, so no matter what entertainment device you're dealing with you always have the ability to record and play whatever you want. And definately add basic internal storage space - 2gb of internal flash storage would work fine, but just so you always have something you can record to that you can just swap over to something else later.
You could even use the internal storage to 'enqueue' a video for whatever it's ultimate destination if the required media is unavailable - so, say you were recording for PSP but didn't have your MemoryStick Pro Duo available just that second (or you're recording while you're away and you took your PSP with you, along with your stick). Then it could record happily away on it's internal space and have it all ready for you when you do subsequently pop in the stick.
Most importantly, I would like some kind of display on the device so I can use it to play music without having to turn on the TV.
Other features I would like it to have:
-wireless
-1080p hi-def
-h264 record/play
Funny thing, I'm suggesting features for your next product version so I can win one without those features 
Most importantly, I would like some kind of display on the device so I can use it to play music without having to turn on the TV.
Other features I would like it to have:
-wireless
-1080p hi-def
-h264 record/play
Funny thing, I'm suggesting features for your next product version so I can win one without those features 
1. wifi and bluetooth
2. Remote Control using your mobile phone (bluetooth).
3. You should be able to remote control it through the internet ... for example you want to set the Neuros to record a program but you are away on business. So you should be able to "programm" and schedule the video recording via a browser interface and the internet (by integrating with a service like DynDNS).
4. It would also be nice if you could remote control it via a browser interface on your mobile phone anywhere in the world (for recording)
5. It should have the option to play and stream any of the music files on a home network (also via wifi).
One things that popped in [maybe kinda dismissable, but whatever], although I don't listen to radios for a long time now, but my uncle does listen to the channels coming from the dig. receiver, and would be a nice feat to be able to record audio from the radio channels with a button, with channel id's and timestamps and making a collection out'a'them.
I always wanted device that would clearly speak what track, chapter, movie it is playing.
It definitely should be script able, so anyone could make their own audio messages(alarm clock, birthday reminder,beep at every full hour). Plus reading ebooks. Default configuration should include the most useful scripts.
Other feature that I would like to see is fully integrated calendar. Scheduling recordings, adding remainders, alarm clock(+ above feature = being woken up by shorts form Neuromancer).
One more thing [sorry
], so there are plenty of sites where you american people can watch episodes of tv series. Would be kinda cool to support fullscreen playback of any streamable internet video source, like you'd bookmark those you regularly watch, and clickety watch them. Additionally, although not in the US, but it'd be nice to add support for recording these streams locally [ not a big deal really, still, would be nice ].
I'd like to take the "pause, buffer and resume" suggestion a bit further: when watching live TV via the device, let it continuously encode and buffer the current program, as far as storage allows. When you have a "Whoops, what happened there?" moment, you can just rewind by some 10 seconds or so. I've gotten used to doing this with recorded media so much, that I often want to rewind on live shows too.
With enough external storage available you could of course save the whole show and be able to rewind as far as you'd like, but I think it could be useful even with a 30 second buffer in internal RAM only.
Depending on the previous use of the replay feature, you can also skip parts of commercial breaks. Especially useful when buffering in RAM only, as you discard pesky commercials to get your full replay buffer again.
Several things come in to my mind, which I have not found to be included in the feature set and hardware specs.
First of all, this device is primarily for TV-recording and video/recordings-playback, but I think lots of people out there would use it a for media extending music to their HIFI system, thus my suggestions are primarily to improve the media-extending capabilities and make remote controlling via. network possible as well.
- Navigation in music (primarily) is sometimes very tiresome through OSD's on TV-screens and it often bothers me, that I have to turn on the TV to navigate to some music track, when using such devices. Look at how the SqueezeBox and the SlimServer works, make a similar server for controlling the device remotely or port the SlimServer (if thats possible/legal)
- Playback of Internet Radio stations in various formats and protocols is a must! Should expand to function with,e.g., Rhapsody, Pandora, Last.FM etc.
- Better audio components and connectivity, e.g., Burr-Brown high fidelity DAC's and TOSLINK and/or COAX digital output(s).
- Include a display to allow simple navigation without the TV turned on. Display a navigatable menu-structure, now playing/now showing etc.
- Wireless network coul





