Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 18:58 UTC, submitted by Oliver
FreeBSD FeeBSD 7.0-beta1 has been released, with 6.3-beta1 on its way. "We have entered the final phases of the FreeBSD-7.0 Release cycle which also means the beginning of the FreeBSD-6.3 Release cycle. Because the people who support the ports for FreeBSD also need to go through a freeze cycle as part of releases we had decided to combine the two releases to try and minimize the impact on the ports maintainers."
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Oh no!
by cato_minor (1.9) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 19:17 UTC
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FeeBSD 7.0-beta1 has been released


Now it has happened - FreeBSD going commercial!!

RE: Oh no!
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 22:37 UTC in reply to "Oh no!"
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Umm...
How so?

RE[2]: Oh no!
by cato_minor (1.9) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 23:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Oh no!"
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Umm... How so?

Just a silly wordplay, picking on the typo. SCNR ;)

RE[3]: Oh no!
by Tweek (1.6) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 04:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Oh no!"
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Nice catch, I had to do a double take to see it.

New Features in 7
by Chezz (2.32) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 19:20 UTC
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you can see a list of new features here

http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd7.html

Very, very nice
by jackson (3.16) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 19:20 UTC
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I have been running 7.0 Current for several months now and it's been fantastic for my desktop use. Awesome stability and very fast, especially with the ULE scheduler, which is disabled by default but is a recommended optimization. The FreeBSD GNOME team has also done an outstanding job with GNOME (see freebsd.org/gnome). Xorg 7.3, Compiz-Fusion, are all available in ports as well.

/me loves FreeBSD.

RE: Very, very nice
by mezz (2.92) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 04:46 UTC in reply to "Very, very nice"
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The FreeBSD GNOME team has also done an outstanding job with GNOME (see freebsd.org/gnome).

The GNOME 2.2.1 and the rest of MC ports will be merging into FreeBSD ports sometime this week. ;-)

Not to be pickish
by s_groening (2.52) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 20:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Very, very nice"
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It's GNOME 2.20.1 and not 2.2.1, and I'm sure it's a typo, but if not one must say that the more than 7 years difference between the two releases is quite significant ;)

RE: Not to be pickish
by mezz (2.92) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 21:31 UTC in reply to "Not to be pickish"
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It's GNOME 2.20.1 and not 2.2.1

Yes, it's a typo. :-) GNOME 2.20.1 is going to be merge into FreeBSD ports anytime today, btw.

Macbook
by ukki (1) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 19:45 UTC
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Still doesn't boot on my first generation Macbook with acpi enabled =(

RE: Macbook
by Chezz (2.32) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 23:59 UTC in reply to "Macbook"
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ukki not all macbook patches were merged in 7
you need to take a look at
http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook

RE: Macbook
by vermaden (3.52) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 05:44 UTC in reply to "Macbook"
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On my new shiny toaster either, what a crap ...

great
by SK8T (2.4) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 19:55 UTC
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lot's of congrats to the whole FreeBSD Team!
I really like FreeBSD and espacially me as a mac user. A lot of there work flowed into MacOS "Leopard".

They a great job!
*clapping the hands* =)

nvidia on amd64?
by Blender (1) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 20:10 UTC
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I was wondering if there's gonna be an nvidia driver for FreeBSD 7 amd64, anyone idea?

RE: nvidia on amd64?
by Don T. Bothers (4.52) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 20:15 UTC in reply to "nvidia on amd64?"
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Last I read, I don't think so. http://wiki.freebsd.org/NvidiaFeatureRequests has an update on the situation but this information might be outdated.

RE: nvidia on amd64?
by gilboa (2.76) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 10:11 UTC in reply to "nvidia on amd64?"
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Far, far away [1], [2].
nVidia hides behind the "missing features" argument while the BSD people (understandably) do not rush to implement the missing features.

Hopefully AMD will release all the 3D specs ASAP, helping the X.org/SUSE team to release a good 3D capable OSS driver - forcing, nVidia to rethink their driver policy.
As it stands, I don't see them modify their driver frame work to support 64bit BSD, Xen (under both Linux and Solaris) and other non-standard OS combinations.

- Gilboa
[1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82203
[2] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545

RE[2]: nvidia on amd64?
by Oliver (3.08) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 16:15 UTC in reply to "RE: nvidia on amd64?"
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Thanks god games aren't important.

RE[2]: nvidia on amd64?
by atici (2) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 16:46 UTC in reply to "RE: nvidia on amd64?"
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I think nVidia's policy is admirable when it comes to FreeBSD drivers. To be able to release a high performance driver they posted their requests on freebsd forums long time ago. It's not like they're hiding behind anything or making excessive demands. Those features are available in Linux and Solaris and thus they have a 64 bit driver. Also if you want a suboptimal solution you can always stick to 32 bit OS. nVidia will release the driver as soon as the features are implemented. So if anyone is dragging their feet it's the BSD team.

I don't play games but I need the official nVidia driver for my dual monitor setup. I guess I'll have to wait for Project Indiana instead.

RE[3]: nvidia on amd64?
by Oliver (3.08) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 18:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: nvidia on amd64?"
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Not every operating system designs its drivers according to the wishes of some driver developers. Most of the time those driver developers aren't able to develop proper drivers at all, so why care about it? Maybe they should open up their drivers, there will be something ready for proper redesign too :-)

Free7+K4
by Lengsel (1.84) on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 20:58 UTC
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I think Free 7 with KDE4 is going to be one killer system!

But I'm also really looking forward to OpenBSD 4.3 with KDE4, be really nice desktop GUI with seriously secure controls.

But I am seriously going to work on seeing who I can get to switch over to Free7+K4 and get out of Linux and Windows. I think it will be a glamorous desktop.

It looks like it will be a mid-December release, approximately around the same time frame of the official stable release of KDE 4.0

RE: Free7+K4
by viniosity (2.3) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 01:25 UTC in reply to "Free7+K4"
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I've been playing with FreeBSD on my MacBook Pro via VMWare the last few days. I couldn't get this beta to finish installing from the boot ISO. It would download a bunch of packages, give me a cryptic message and reboot to a non-working system. 6.2 works fine though.

I too am excited about the prospect of FreeBSD7 + KDE4 but unless suspend/resume works on laptops now (didn't see anything about that in the release notes) it's going to be a tough sell.

New things in 7.0
by jackson (3.16) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 15:08 UTC
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Kris Kennaway, FreeBSD committer, just created a pdf of a presentation he gave about all the cool things in 7.0, especially the SMP work and general optimizations. It's a great read:

http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf

RE: New things in 7.0
by theraven1982 (3.33) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 21:25 UTC in reply to "New things in 7.0"
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A great read indeed; it's good to see FreeBSD on top of their game. I've always preferred FreeBSD; code correctness instead of amount of code

Geometry bug fixed yet?
by ozonehole (2) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 15:36 UTC
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I'm not trying to be a troll. I used FreeBSD for about a year (version 5.x), but couldn't live with the geometry bug in the installer. Even though it would install OK, it would mess up my Linux partitions (some distros would refuse to run as a result).

The geometry bug has been around for what - 10 or 15 years? OpenBSD does not have this problem. So I'm asking, in all sincerity, will 7.0 finally fix the geometry bug? If so, I'll gladly give it a try. If not, well, I can always wait for 8.x, or 9.x, or ???

Edited 2007-10-24 15:38

RE: Geometry bug fixed yet?
by Oliver (3.08) on Wed 24th Oct 2007 18:44 UTC in reply to "Geometry bug fixed yet?"
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What bug? It's showing you these thing because your bios lies about your harddrive.