Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Sep 2007 09:05 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Miray Software has released [scroll down a bit] the first version of its newly developed embedded RTOS, Symobi. "Symobi was introduced in professional circles for the first time on the Systems 2006 exposition. Symobi is a graphical RTOS with a newly designed architecture, according to state-of-the-art technology. It is based on the microkernel system µnOS, which was also developed by Miray Software. Therefore, Symobi has its main characteristics - real-time, stability, portability, and modularity - and expands it with new services. The research team of Prof. Dr. Uwe Baumgarten of the Technical University Munich is also involved in the development." There are screenshots, as well as a live CD (for x86 and the Pegasos II/ODW).
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YAY! TABS!
by judgen (3.4) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 10:17 UTC
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Tabs are yummy!
Hehe just an Be reference =)

RE: YAY! TABS!
by merkoth (3.6) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 12:57 UTC in reply to "YAY! TABS!"
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Tabs are yummy!
Hehe just an Be reference =)


Yup, nice addition.

Time to fire up VirtualBox ;)

neet
by poundsmack (3.96) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 14:34 UTC
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this looks really cool and it looks there on 1.2. I look forward to heaing more about all of this in the near future. ;)

it runs on genergic x86 as well as the open developers workstation (pegasos) now that is cool. now i have 2 boxes to test it on ;)

Widgets
by stestagg (3.68) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 15:42 UTC
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Aren't the Windows XP widgets copyrighted or something?

RE: Widgets
by zizban (3.52) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 16:43 UTC in reply to "Widgets"
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Probably but do you think MS will sue? I don't.

A more important issue to me is, does it have networking, can I have clusters?

Let down...
by Bobthearch (1.84) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 17:09 UTC
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Well I didn't get much out of their LiveCD. Maybe my own intellectual limitations, or maybe an OS that's not actually meant to be used.

Visually, it looked nice. The little demos worked well and showed the OSes potential for high-detail graphics.

However, I didn't get any sound. I couldn't close the little "mem" and "CPU" apps, and they annoyingly stayed on top of other apps. I couldn't find any documents, instructions, or Help files. No file browser. No configuration tools. And at the end I couldn't find a "Reboot" or "Shud Down" tool.

I don't recall any of those problems with unOS. Was I missing a control panel or sub-menu somewhere?

Some notes...
by p-OS (1) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 18:06 UTC
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The Demo is not a fully working copy of the OS, but more kind of a self-running demo(nstration).

To boot it on an ODW, it is - despite the readme on the CD - not necessary to change yout boot variables.
Simply put the CD into the drice, goto OpenFirmware prompt and type in:

boot CD kernel.fth

The ODW-Version doesn't work with a G3-CPU. Also doesn't like all versions of the FirmWare.
More on this topic here:

http://www.powerdeveloper.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1241&start...

x86 version is running slowly in VmWare
by bannor99 (1.68) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 18:44 UTC
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And I've allocated 256M to it. It takes 3 seconds to drag a small windows from one corner of the screen to another. Any tips?

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Symobi makes intensive use of IPC (inter process communication) operations. They do have little impact on real x86 processors, but are quite expensive in VMware, especially in the free VMware server. Therefore we recommend using VMware Player, if possible. Symobi runs faster on VMware Player or on VirtualPC.

The next version of Symobi will also contain a vastly improved IPC, accelerating Symobi on platforms like VMware where context switching is more expensive than on native x86 processors.

We hope you stay tuned...

@Bobthearch: use "Alt+F4" to close any application.

New: If you want to use VMware Player you may want to download a virtual machine file (.vmx) for VMware here:
http://www.symobi.com/livedemo

the most important question
by AdamW (3.32) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:28 UTC
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glad to see they pre-empted the most important question - does it run Doom...:)

RE: the most important question
by Bobthearch (1.84) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:40 UTC in reply to "the most important question"
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does it run Doom
Yep, in a tiny 5" x 3" window with no sound. So maybe that's not the best gaming example to use in their next LiveCD version...

RE[2]: the most important question
by theteam (1.33) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 20:54 UTC in reply to "RE: the most important question"
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It was not intended as a gaming "example" but merely as a tech demo for the fine grained multitasking Symobi offers. If you open several instances (2, 5, 10) of Doom, they will run smoothly in parallel. Of course Symobi cannot generate more processing power than the processor provides, but even if the processor is 100% working, the processing power is distributed equally to all running instances. This looks way different if you try it with other "modern" OSes.

BTW: The above refers to Symobi running on a native processor, not on a VM. Ought to be the same there, just slower...

Rebooting: This demo does not use any drives in your PC. So you can simply switch off the PC ;-)

License ?
by milleoiseaux (1.83) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:37 UTC
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I tried hard, but could not find any kind of license or something. doesn't sound too good.

RE: License ?
by Flatland_Spider (2.96) on Sun 30th Sep 2007 20:05 UTC in reply to "License ?"
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It's closed source I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symobi

RE: License ?
by Flatland_Spider (2.96) on Sun 30th Sep 2007 20:07 UTC in reply to "License ?"
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It's closed source I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symobi

Alt F4
by Bobthearch (1.84) on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:44 UTC
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Bobthearch: use "Alt+F4" to close any application.

Thanks! I'll give that a try.

That's the sort of information that would be useful to include in a Help file or manual on the CD and accessible from the desktop.

Any secret key combo for rebooting?

Best Wishes,
-Bob

Edited 2007-09-28 19:45