Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Sep 2007 21:46 UTC
ReactOS ReactOS 0.3.3 has been released. "The Win32 subsystem is in the beginning of a total overhaul to make it completely compatible with NT5 which may introduce various drops in application compatibility from time to time, however in the 0.3.3 release it has had a positive impact on stability and compatibility with Win32 applications. As a generic result of these internal changes, the system feels a lot more stable in comparison to previous releases, and could be run on a real hardware (though usual limitations still apply - no USB, SATA, NTFS)." The screenshots page has been updated as well.
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by KenJackson (3.48) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:06 UTC
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Very good! I'm eager to try it out.

The problem with this project is that not many people will be excited by it until it is stable enough to be actually useful. I just hope enough interested developers can stay focused enough to get to that point.

Shifting targets
by Almafeta (3.36) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:07 UTC
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Checking out the ReactOS homepage, I notice no mention of their pirated code "cleanup" which made all the headlines. In addition, they're now trying to "ground-up implementation of a Microsoft Windows XP compatible system." Really? Just like when they were trying to make a 2000- compatible system, or back when their project was still called FreeWin95?

It's a shame. If they were to simply make a good OS on the NT model, and then try to emulate Windows, they might have a chance of making a viable OS. However, by instead trying to chase down every Windows release as it comes out, they're a team of tens trying to reverse-engineer the work of thousands.

RE: Shifting targets
by zizban (3.76) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:18 UTC in reply to "Shifting targets"
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They finished the clean up, thus no mention. Whether their was pirated code is unknown and pure speculation.

NT5 is the code base for 2000, XP and Vista. If you stick to NT5 you'll get a good system.

RE[2]: Shifting targets
by baadger (2.52) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 01:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
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Actually Vista is officially using the NT 6.0 kernel, although rumour has it SP1 will up that to NT 6.1 to come in line with Server 2008.

RE[3]: Shifting targets
by lemur2 (3.08) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 01:50 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shifting targets"
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Actually Vista is officially using the NT 6.0 kernel, although rumour has it SP1 will up that to NT 6.1 to come in line with Server 2008.


Yes, but Vista is a thing to avoid wherever and whenever possible.

RE[4]: Shifting targets
by raver31 (4.28) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 05:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Shifting targets"
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Cheeky... but very funny.

Thanks a lot, I spat hot coffee all over my knees, keyboard and screen ;)

RE: Shifting targets
by vege (2.76) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:20 UTC in reply to "Shifting targets"
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That is the challenge.

Anyway, you don't need to be as devoted as they seem to be, but you can let yourself see they are doing a great job to achieve their chosen goal, even if you did not find it interesting.

RE: Shifting targets
by cyclops (1.8) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:21 UTC in reply to "Shifting targets"
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"It's a shame. If they were to simply make a good OS on the NT model, and then try to emulate Windows, they might have a chance of making a viable OS. However, by instead trying to chase down every Windows release as it comes out, they're a team of tens trying to reverse-engineer the work of thousands."

Its a good job they are building on work done for many years by the Wine team...for years, and I suspect an awful lot of code will be used from other places as well. They already have a lot working.

RE: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:40 UTC in reply to "Shifting targets"
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You must be blind.

If you take a look at the right column on the front page, you will see a box which says:

ReactOS Auditing

99.5% complete

For further information on the audit status, please visit the related ReactOS-Wiki page.


I even have a screenshot, made just for you ;)
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/1/reactos-frontpage-auditing.p...

There never was pirated code in ReactOS. So far none is found, and there is only 0.5% to go. It is unlikely that the unproven claims would be proved by the last remaining 49 files.

FreeWin95 has little to do with ReactOS except for the wish to recreate Windows API. ReactOS is coming nicely along and has a quite nice compatibility already. They can pull it off. They are not trying to be ahead of Microsoft. They are trying to create an open Windows system for those who don't want to buy expensive hardware to run the newest buggy release from Microsoft.

RE[2]: Shifting targets
by diegocg (4.88) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
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They are trying to create an open Windows system


Well, IMO it's stupid to try to create a open windows clone if you just end up running propietary drivers. Not that reactos isn't awesome despite of that....

RE[3]: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shifting targets"
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I don't know about that. If you have proprietary drivers that work, but have an OS that is no longer supported by the company behind it... well, suddenly it's not so stupid.

Besides that, there are open drivers as well (ext2fs drivers and some other fs-drivers in more or less working state).

RE[3]: Shifting targets
by lemur2 (3.08) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 23:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shifting targets"
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Well, IMO it's stupid to try to create a open windows clone


I disagree.

If ReactOS gets good enough to be able to run most Win32 binaries, then I would run it virtualized under Linux in a few years time in order to maintain legacy applications.

If it catches a virus, no biggie ... just wipe, rinse and restore from an image.

ReactOS virtualized under Linux could potentially become an ideal way to maintain support for legacy, binary, Windows-only cruft that you may find that you still need to keep running.

RE[4]: Shifting targets
by asdx24 (2.48) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 23:24 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Shifting targets"
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you can use wine too for that purpose

RE[4]: Shifting targets
by Joe User (0.88) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 23:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Shifting targets"
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ReactOS virtualized under Linux

Why???!! Reactos is the best hope to ditch both Windows and Linux, so if you ever want virtualization, run Linux on top of Reactos, but not the other way around! (Unless you're a sysadmin)

RE[2]: Shifting targets
by TaterSalad (2.68) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 03:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
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LOL that screenshot was classic!

RE[2]: Shifting targets
by sweiss (1.45) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 07:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
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"...newest buggy release from Microsoft."

Just wait and see how bug-free ReactOS will be when it is finally released, if ever.
I doubt you will be satisfied with its quality.

RE[3]: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:39 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shifting targets"
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I doubt you will be satisfied with its quality.


Out of pure curiosity I ask: Why is that? What would make ReactOS so unstable and inconsistent that it would dissatisfy me? Would it give me as many BSODs as NT4 did? Win2K and Win2K3 are much better than NT4, but lacks consistency in the interface.

Considering the amount of bugs in GNU/Linux, *BSD, Windows 2K/XP/2K3 and pretty much all software only poor performance and lack of stability can dissatisfy me. But I doubt that ReactOS 1.0 will have poor performance and low level of stability. FLOSS software generally don't reach the 1.0-milestone without having good performance and stability. Gnome 1.0 was an exception to that rule (as stable as windows 3.x).

RE[4]: Shifting targets
by sweiss (1.45) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 13:34 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Shifting targets"
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Linux, for example, took quite some time to "get there", and that is just a kernel. Windows is much more than that - It is a kernel, a graphical subsystem, other built-in applications etc.

I am currently using KDE 3.5.7, and I can still find fixed use-cases which cause software to crash.
Bug-free certainly isn't the highlight when it comes to open source software. QA and bug fixing are simply not as fun as implementing new features.

v RE[4]: Shifting targets
by WyldStylist (1.04) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shifting targets"
RE[5]: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:24 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Shifting targets"
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... ?

RE: Shifting targets
by SReilly (3.64) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 00:49 UTC in reply to "Shifting targets"
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What is it with you and wanting to stir the s**t? Do you really want everybody to ignore your comments or shoot you down the minute you come out with one?

Personally, I think the project rocks. I don't see a problem with somebody trying to recreate a system from scratch.

What's the big deal? You don't like the fact that somebody is trying to create a better OS than MS? That makes no sense.

Surely, if your a fan of MS software, you want MS to give they're best? Don't tell me MS is going to do that without some form of competition?

RE[2]: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
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Well, if moulinneuf and Oliver can stir the s**t from a GPL and a BSD-POV then Almafeta can stir the s**t from a Windows POV ;)

But I don't grasp why he wants to be in that group...

RE[3]: Shifting targets
by SReilly (3.64) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:55 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shifting targets"
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But I don't grasp why he wants to be in that group...

LOL! Neither do I.

It's nice that this site has most of the trolls under control and although I don't consider Almafeta one, yet, it's still nice to be able give them a kick in the teeth no matter which side of the fence they're from. ;-)

As for ReactOS, this project is making some serious headway. I downloaded the latest release and am seriously impressed. It seems to have sped up and become allot more responsive.

Nice work ReactOS team.

RE: Shifting targets
by TBPrince (3) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:41 UTC in reply to "Shifting targets"
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It's a shame. If they were to simply make a good OS on the NT model, and then try to emulate Windows, they might have a chance of making a viable OS. However, by instead trying to chase down every Windows release as it comes out, they're a team of tens trying to reverse-engineer the work of thousands.
Why should they try to make a new OS which has no market and then *try* to emulate Windows instead of making a Windows-compatible OS which instantly gains the biggest software base in the world? Your logic is beyond me.

Thanks to something called "backward compatibility" and something called "stable API", you usually don't need latest Windows to use its software, unless specifically designed for latest version of OS.

Being a generation behind official Windows (like being XP-compatible in the era of Vista) would be a great achievement for ReactOS.

it would be nice
by nalf38 (1.28) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:54 UTC
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...if it worked with a few holdouts of my favorite windows applications, then i wouldn't have to keep that spare copy of win2k around.

i'll give it another whirl. tried it two years ago and it couldn't really do much of anything except sit there and crash, and i already have a copy of windows for that.

RE: it would be nice
by trenchsol (2.68) on Fri 14th Sep 2007 12:44 UTC in reply to "it would be nice"
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If you favorite winapps are not new ones, it might work. Otherwise, ReactOS is similar to Mono, because both try to be compatible with someone who is constantly changing the rules of the game.

Your mistaken
by Belial6 (5) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 23:13 UTC
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You are mistaken about the "pirated code". There was no scandal about pirated code. There was a hoopla over the difference in what constitutes legal reverse engineering in different countries. Their resolution was to audit all code as they touched the section of code, and at that time, remove anything that might even gray in any country. They have a meter right on the front page of their web site that shows what percentage of their code has been audited. I would consider that a mention. Also, they are saying that they are shooting for NT5, which is what 2000 is. Just because they are including some NT5.2 compatible code does not mean they have abandoned NT5.0.

If they succeed
by Joe User (0.88) on Wed 12th Sep 2007 23:18 UTC
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Reactos could be a secure and lightweight Windows-like alternative to Windows Vista. While people are angry at Vista because it uses so many resources and because it's insecure and still, pricy, Reactos would solve all these problems in a few years. People don't want bells & whistles, they want security, speed and low cost. If people don't adopt Linux, they could adopt Reactos that will be familiar for them and it'll run their favorite applications. Best of luck to the team.

The icons...
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 01:07 UTC
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I'm not sure I'm happy about using the Tango icons. Personally I've begun to choose the Crystal Project over the Tango Project - especially for Windows.

Oh well.. it's FLOSS, so it's not impossible to change. I just have to compile it myself. It probably won't be as smooth as compiling Firefox 3 for Windows.

Am I the only one to think the Tango icons are a tad bland? I think it could handle a bit more gloss - like something in between Tango as it is and the Crystal icons. Not too much gloss, nor too little.

RE: The icons...
by UZ64 (3.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 01:30 UTC in reply to "The icons..."
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Nope, you're not the only one. I can't stand the Tango icons. They're flat-out ugly.

Opinion alert: Don't take this as fact.

RE[2]: The icons...
by raver31 (4.28) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 05:58 UTC in reply to "RE: The icons..."
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No, it is a fact, Tango icons are ugly.

Crystal is ugly too, If they were going to emulate Windows, they should have used Windows look-a-like icons too.

RE[3]: The icons...
by kanwar.plaha (1.95) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 06:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: The icons..."
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Tango is ugly and Crystal is, well, a bit over done.

There's always Oxygen of course, which is shaping up to be a good iconset.

RE: The icons...
by Soulbender (3.32) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 07:30 UTC in reply to "The icons..."
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"Am I the only one to think the Tango icons are a tad bland?"

Probably not but I like their "blandness". On the other hand absolutely cant stand the Crystal gloss.

RE[2]: The icons...
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:11 UTC in reply to "RE: The icons..."
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Aah yeah, well. There are several variations of the Crystal icons. I dislike Crystal Clear very much, but Crystal SVG is nicer. The older versions are generally horrible, but there are some new versions which are quite nice.

The "Crystal Project" I was thinking of, is this one:
http://www.everaldo.com/crystal/?action=preview

A bit too much gloss but nothing like the older Crystal styles. Much more mac-like - more photorealistic than actually glossy.

Something between Crystal and Tango would look so sweeeeeeeet (said with really cute high-pitched voice a la Leela).

In Gnome I use Tango icons but that's because it works fine with my slightly extra-coloured fancy theme. In Windows (or in Gnome with an old-fashioned theme) the newer Crystal icons would probably do juuuuuuust fine. I think.

Okay, I'm officially babbling now ;)

BTW: Danes only drinking on occasion. Of course we have an occasion for every day ;)

RE[3]: The icons...
by SReilly (3.64) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 09:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: The icons..."
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BTW: Danes only drinking on occasion. Of course we have an occasion for every day ;)

So do we Irish. There is no excuse needed for a good drink, but it's nice to have one. ;-)

Yeah, I like the Crystal icon set, although it is a bit glossy for me.

Oxygen now, that would be sweet!

RE[3]: The icons...
by Soulbender (3.32) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 09:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: The icons..."
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"The "Crystal Project" I was thinking of, is this one: "

Ehh..I dunno. It doesn't do it for me. I also really dislike "photorealistic" icons (like the hard disk icon in that set). It's an icon, it should symbolize something, not be an accurate depiction of that something.

"BTW: Danes only drinking on occasion. Of course we have an occasion for every day ;) "

Drinking in itself is an occasion ;)
I remember the Danish DHL office having their lunchroom fridge stacked with alcohol. That seemed quite odd to a swede.

RE: The icons...
by dagw (3.64) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 10:54 UTC in reply to "The icons..."
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It's quite amusing that something as irrelevant and easily changed as the choice of icon set is the topic that causes the biggest discussion. I guess compaining about something technical and relevant would require too much knowledge and effort, and after all you do have to complain about _something_.

(Much like me complaining about people posting complaints)

RE[2]: The icons...
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:26 UTC in reply to "RE: The icons..."
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Hey, I wasn't complaining about the icons. And if you see my other posts, you'll see I've got a quite positive attitude towards ReactOS.

Great for backwards compatiblity
by kragil (5.44) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:12 UTC
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just imagine every linux distro with seamless virtualbox and a reactos guest for legacy apps. I think it will be a better solution than wine.
just my 2 cent but I am happy about the progress

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sorry for using m$
by kragil (5.44) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:16 UTC
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I didn't know that my comment would expose my browaer and os .. I am ashamed ..

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RE: sorry for using m$
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:33 UTC in reply to "sorry for using m$"
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You're forgiven ;)

Perfect for games
by Kebabbert (1.8) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:50 UTC
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If DX10 came to this. Then Vista wont be needed.

RE: Perfect for games
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 23:10 UTC in reply to "Perfect for games"
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Well, supposedly Vista STILL isn't needed because DX10 really makes no difference...

RE: The icons...
by gedmurphy (2.4) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 09:14 UTC
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The problem is finding an icon set rich enough to support the vast number of icons which are bundled with ReactOS / Windows.

Most icon sets are designed for Linux desktops, so a certain set of icons is designed. Windows has different icons to Linux, and we need to simulate that range.

Tango was one of the richest, but even that wasn't enough, many of our icons are modified Tango.

Eventually, a set of photo realistic ReactOS dedicated icons will be developed, but until that time we need to utiize what the market offers as best we can. Tango was the best solution when the decision to use them was made (about a year ago)

RE: RE: The icons...
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:30 UTC in reply to " RE: The icons..."
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Well, the Tango icons are better than the ugly blend of Win 3.1, Win95, Win98, Win2K and Win XP icons found in pre-Vista Windows ;)

Despite ReactOS being in an early state it is quite consistent in its UI, even in regard to translations. In terms of localisation ReactOS is already ahead of Windows ;)

Will msstyles be supported in ReactOS or will you stick to the classical Windows look (not a bad choice, IMHO) ?

Free OS
by hussam (1.84) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 09:22 UTC
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Eventually if this project does reach a usable state, it will only serve as a free version of windows. And that's not a bad thing. To me, (this is a very subjective opinion) Linux served me for many years as a free Unix alternative.

In any case, good work by ReactOS devs for auditing the source code and removing any illegal parts. Hopefully with time, more people will join the project and help out.

Edited 2007-09-13 09:27

Drivers
by werfu (2.4) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:39 UTC
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Having ReactOS able to use all my driver prodived by the manufacturers and get ALL my peripheral working automagicaly would make this is far more interesting than Linux, unleashing the full potential of the hardware. I'd better wish that hardware manufacturers make Linux drivers but hee...

The only thing I'd wish is that they could add an X emulation layer so I could use KDE as my DE and still use GDI app.

RE: The icons...
by gedmurphy (2.4) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 12:48 UTC
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Will msstyles be supported in ReactOS or will you stick to the classical Windows look (not a bad choice, IMHO) ?

At some point in the future, yes.
We have uxtheme.dll from Wine, but it's not fully implemented yet.

There is also a full replacement for our current explorer which has started development. This will bring a much more modern shell to ReactOS.

RE[2]: The icons...
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 15:36 UTC in reply to "RE: The icons..."
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Sounds good. ReactOS is getting sexier for each release.

I hope msstyles will perform better in ReactOS than in Wine, though.

ReactOS + different shell
by knightrider (1.76) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 15:42 UTC
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What about ReactOS 0.3.3 with BBlean for Windows as a replacement shell? Think I'll try it in Virtualbox.

Edited 2007-09-13 15:43

RE:ReactOS 0.3.3 Released
by TusharG (1.92) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 16:17 UTC
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Timing has lot to do with the Success of ReactOS.
Before people upgrade there hardware and spend money ReactOS should reach to 1.0 version which will be hopefully stable.
We do not expect any fancy things from this os, we just want out apps to run on this OS! and we never have to use Vista and windows XP again!

RE[2]:ReactOS 0.3.3 Released
by Captain_DaFt (1.25) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 21:47 UTC in reply to "RE:ReactOS 0.3.3 Released"
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>We do not expect any fancy things from this os, we just want out apps to run on this OS! and we never have to use Vista and windows XP again!

Hear hear! I have one box still running windows because of the apps, and when Reactos goes beta, I'm installing it.
(Linux's one task, one app approach is ok, but some things are just easier to do when you have one app that does everything you need to do, instead of switching between various apps to do the same job.)

So
by siki_miki (2.68) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 22:00 UTC
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They are trying to recreate a system which is broken by design. XP is a system hacked up for a decent user experience, but there are many shortcomings and design flaws (e.g. bad non-admin user support, bad driver model with power management left to be implemented in each driver, win32 API itself, services with open ports, window system in kernel etc.). Even Vista is much better in sense of architecture. The only problem is that it was over-ambitious and MS rushed it out year or two before it was ready.

RE: So
by gedmurphy (2.4) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 22:54 UTC in reply to "So"
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wow, I would never have guessed someone who read osnews could be so clueless about XP. Pretty much everything you said is inaccurate.

RE: So
by BrianH (2.4) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 22:57 UTC in reply to "So"
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They are trying to recreate a system which is broken by design.


Are these design flaws in Windows reflected in the API, or internal? If internal, the new code could be better than the old. ReactOS could end up a better Windows than Windows.

Alternatives...
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Thu 13th Sep 2007 23:23 UTC
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We're getting there. Linux/BSD and OSX are maturing rapidly. GNOME is pretty and polished.

KDE is too and is about to change a few things...

Driver support is better than ever.
AMD/ATI and Intel are supporting the F/OSS community.

Virtualization is evolving very rapidly...

Pretty soon one will be able to use ANY OS and run just about ANY program relatively seamlessly. Granted, the programs might not be cutting edge...But playing BioShock in Linux within a few years on a sweet rig with open source 3d drivers...

ReactOS
by shiva (3.2) on Sat 15th Sep 2007 00:16 UTC
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I just installed this last version in a vmware virtual machine and it is very far from sufficient stable for production or even for daily usage.

In my opinion it would be more productive investing time and effort to develop wine, samba and making linux more user friendly for windows users. NT kernel has not many advantages over the old and reliable unix kernel. It is stupid trying to play a game dicted by Microsoft and with MS patents involved.