Star IBM To Implement Sun Solaris on x86-Based System x
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 16th Aug 2007 23:17 UTC, submitted by flanque
IBM "IBM and Sun Microsystems did indeed announce an agreement for deploying the Solaris operating system on IBM servers, but it wasn't the system we guessed: IBM will deploy Solaris for its Intel x86-based System x and BladeCenter servers. It's a significant move, as it validates the presence of Sun's operating system among a broad customer base that few can mistake as a "niche." As Sun CEO Jonathan Schwartz told reporters today, IBM becomes the first Tier 1 reseller of Solaris products and services for x86 platforms." His blog is here.
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Jonathan's blog post
by rjamorim (3.67) on Thu 16th Aug 2007 23:46 UTC
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Here you can read Jonathan gushing about the announcement:
http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/momentous_day_for_solaris

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Niche??
by flanque (3.48) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 00:05 UTC
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It's a significant move, as it validates the presence of Sun's operating system among a broad customer base that few can mistake as a "niche."


I'm confused as how anyone could define Solaris as "niche". It's not even close to being niche.

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RE: Niche??
by jmcp (2.09) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 01:00 UTC in reply to "Niche??"
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HP seems to like describing both SPARC and Solaris as "niche". Their PR folks have apparently also described the internet as a "niche" area.

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RE[2]: Niche??
by flanque (3.48) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 02:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Niche??"
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Yeah.. I never got how recycling RMA parts was customer service.. Maybe there's a HP Dictionary somewhere.

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RE[2]: Niche??
by kaiwai (2.32) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 17:06 UTC in reply to "RE: Niche??"
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Well, people try to use niche as an insult. You know, Porn is a niche, a $16billion niche. Not that anyone is complaining about that ;)

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RE: Niche??
by Zoidberg (3.24) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 01:31 UTC in reply to "Niche??"
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"that few can mistake as a niche"

I'm not really sure what that statement is supposed to mean. Are they saying it's a niche, or that it's not a niche though a few people mistake it as one?

Edited 2007-08-17 01:34

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RE[2]: Niche??
by flanque (3.48) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 02:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Niche??"
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Probably both.

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RE[2]: Niche??
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 14:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Niche??"
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Precision of language is so underrated in our society half of what we hear we doubt...

I really have little patience for a PR or marketing department that can't get a feeling across...

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v *yawn*
by Milo_Hoffman (2.96) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 01:40 UTC
RE: *yawn*
by mdoverkil (2.8) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 02:06 UTC in reply to "*yawn*"
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When one of your biggest competitors is selling and supporting YOUR product on their hardware, I'd be pretty excited.

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RE[2]: *yawn*
by flywheel (1.4) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 03:50 UTC in reply to "RE: *yawn*"
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When one of your biggest competitors is selling and supporting YOUR product on their hardware, I'd be pretty excited.


For the volume and the money yes - otherwise no.
IBM is a weird company, with no ideology regarding their own products at all. If there's profit, they'll sell anything to anyone. Also they mostly regard themselves as a hardware compagny, the software is only an add-on (Additional value).

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RE[3]: *yawn*
by kamil_chatrnuch (2.6) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 23:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: *yawn*"
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hm, i thought they regard themselves mostly as a service company these days..

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RE[4]: *yawn*
by nevali (3.92) on Sun 19th Aug 2007 01:19 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: *yawn*"
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hm, i thought they regard themselves mostly as a service company these days..


Depends how you define "service".

z/Series and i/Series are pretty important to them, as are the Tivoli and Lotus brands (and then you've got DB2 thrown in for good measure for those people not running an IBM OS that comes with it more or less built-in).

Sure, they make money off being a service provider—a lot of money, but if they didn't produce all that hardware and software, they wouldn't have much in the way of services to provide, really.

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RE[2]: *yawn*
by bousozoku (2.8) on Sat 18th Aug 2007 21:43 UTC in reply to "RE: *yawn*"
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When one of your biggest competitors is selling and supporting YOUR product on their hardware, I'd be pretty excited.

IBM announced Solaris for the PowerPC-based PReP machines way back in the 1990s, too. Availability is the key but it's likely that Solaris will be gone within 18 months as an IBM sales option.

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RE: *yawn*
by ebasconp (3.24) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 02:08 UTC in reply to "*yawn*"
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The more hardware supported by Solaris, the more drivers implemented for commodity hardware.

Increasing the user base of one OS, just turns it stronger.

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RE[2]: *yawn*
by kaiwai (2.32) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 02:12 UTC in reply to "RE: *yawn*"
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And the most important thing - it also includes a focus by IBM and treating Solaris as a first class operating system, increase software availability, increase deployment and services being sold. With IBM getting behind it, it should mean more third parties involved with providing software support, hardware support and services.

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend
by elsewhere (4.68) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 03:35 UTC
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To be blunt, keep in mind that IBM, particularly IBM Global Services, is a figurative whore that will sell anything to anyone if they think it will generate revenue.

Having said that, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. All the more power to them and Sun, just wanted to point out that IBM's embrace of Sun is probably less about the actual technical merits of Solaris and more about the marketing, not that I'm implying deficiencies in Solaris. And it's maybe yet another veiled threat to Red Hat. It's all about perspective. More importantly, they need to keep a wide-open portfolio for customers that won't cough up for AIX. ;)

Just offering my grain of salt...

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Off the topic Question
by steverez1 (1.24) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 06:04 UTC
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Does anyone know if Project Looking Glass is still alive?

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RE: Off the topic Question
by andzs (2) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 07:28 UTC in reply to "Off the topic Question"
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by twistys (-23.24) on Fri 17th Aug 2007 09:13 UTC
Honk! Honk!
by Weeman (2) on Sat 18th Aug 2007 11:50 UTC
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I'm not really sure what that statement is supposed to mean. Are they saying it's a niche, or that it's not a niche though a few people mistake it as one?

It's about as niche as BSD is dieing. Just a way for some folks to spread FUD, along the same lines as "Slowlaris" and all that.

Edited 2007-08-18 11:51

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power?
by gelosilente (1.28) on Mon 20th Aug 2007 16:27 UTC
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i hope to see ibm collaborate to port solaris on power.

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