Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 13:14 UTC
Gnome GNOME 2.19.6 has been released yesterday. "This is our sixth development release on our road towards GNOME 2.20.0, which will be released in September 2007. New features are still arriving, so your mission is simple : Go download it. Go compile it. Go test it. And go hack on it, document it, translate it, fix it."
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Vacation for the Gnome devs
by Joe User (0.88) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:09 UTC
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so your mission is simple : Go download it. Go compile it. Go test it. And go hack on it, document it, translate it, fix it.

You forgot..."Go code it!" and the Gnome devs don't have anything else to do :-)

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by Hiev (1.64) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:14 UTC
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Downloaded already, Ubuntu rules.

Edited 2007-08-02 14:14

RE: ...
by restoh (1) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 00:32 UTC in reply to "..."
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So you downloaded and installed the latest GNOME release using Ubuntu? Was it easy to do? Thank you.

RE[2]: ...
by giraffe (2.58) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 16:42 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
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He's probably a Gutsy tester. Otherwise I don't see how either.

v same soup
by pierino (1.6) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:15 UTC
Incremental changes
by rx182 (2.8) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:23 UTC
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Gnome is good. It's just not interesting to follow its development roadmap because they never make exciting release, just incremental changes once in a while.

It's all good tho. I've no problem with that, but it's far from being a good marketing strategy ;-)

RE: Incremental changes
by unoengborg (4.16) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 18:43 UTC in reply to "Incremental changes"
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Actually, I prefer a good stable well thought out release, over a lot of features that are only there for marketing reasons.

If they should do some more marketing, I would just suggest they do a few screenshots on the Gnome site, showing the enhancements in each release.

RE[2]: Incremental changes
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 01:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Incremental changes"
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Exactly. Casual and non users really have very little idea where Gnome is and where it's actually going...

Unlike KDE4 which has been marketing itself very well (hopefully not too well...I trust they have the engineering to go with the hype though)

Glad to see we have two strong, powerful, featureful free desktops in existance. Different enough that the vast majority of users not only find they can use one of the two easily...But that they really LIKE using them.

Loving Gnome right now ;)

RE[2]: Incremental changes
by segedunum (3.08) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 08:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Incremental changes"
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Actually, I prefer a good stable well thought out release, over a lot of features that are only there for marketing reasons.

If you've got nothing to market, what have you got?

If they should do some more marketing, I would just suggest they do a few screenshots on the Gnome site, showing the enhancements in each release.

What are those screenshots going to show?

RE: Incremental changes
by kaiwai (2.32) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 04:58 UTC in reply to "Incremental changes"
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How about this as their new marketing motto:

"Better to add a small number of well tested features to each release than trying to cram a mountain of untested and potentially problematic code for the sake of hype"

I'd sooner see less features, more testing and greater focus on reliability; it isn't as though GNOME is so deficient that it requires massive overhauls (hence the reason there is no GNOME 3.0).

compile it?
by evert (3.76) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:28 UTC
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Wasn't Gnome dropped from Slackware because compiling it is not that easy?

RE: compile it?
by kaiwai (2.32) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 05:00 UTC in reply to "compile it?"
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Wasn't Gnome dropped from Slackware because compiling it is not that easy?


Kinda, it had to do more with the fact that there are heaps of dependencies which cause all manner of problems - the solution is reduceing and consolidating them down to a minimal base. Its going to take a while - and there is nothing stopping Slackware folk from jumping in and helping address these problems.

great
by OStourist (1.76) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:30 UTC
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Many complain about no new features..
but I look at it like evolution..compare Gnome
now to Gnome 5 years ago..

I really want Gnome to be more robust..
fix the bugs and make it so if a user breaks
bono or whatever the system does not become
unuseable but allows easy reversion to a
normal state.

Great job and happy to hear that stuff
that is too linux specific is being made more
unix-nuetral..really want a good gnome on FreeBSD.

RoadMap
by Anonumous (2.72) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 14:56 UTC
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Nice
by kelvin (2.88) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 15:27 UTC
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Thanks GNOME developers, it's always nice to see a new dev release. It goes to show that even when you're number one, there's still room for improvement. GNOME is the best desktop around, and the de facto standard free desktop environment.

Good
by J.R. (3.64) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 17:00 UTC
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Good. I like the incremental approach gnome takes. It makes the waiting time shorter, and not such a big jump when it finally arrives.

GNOME 2.20
by SlackerJack (5.12) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 17:24 UTC
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Will be great but just wait for what we have got install for 2.22, the face lift is coming.

RE: GNOME 2.20
by Jeroenverh (1.12) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 22:00 UTC in reply to "GNOME 2.20"
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Could you be more specific?

RE[2]: GNOME 2.20
by SlackerJack (5.12) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 22:07 UTC in reply to "RE: GNOME 2.20"
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GNOME games will get a face lift for 2.22 and some other stuff, it's going to look much better.

Too resource hungry and slow
by irbis (2.92) on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 21:00 UTC
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I use Gnome as my default desktop at home, but I'm often tempted to switch to either XFCE or KDE (although usually I end up coming back to Gnome, though maybe only because of a habit, I don't know..?).

Gnome has become quite a resource hog and I would like the developers to pay more attention to that (KDE developers do). I've recently installed Ubuntu to a friend's old PC, and he finds it ok except that Gnome too often makes the machine unacceptably slow. I guess I will have to introduce him to Xubuntu/XFCE because of that.

Also, both me and my friend would like to have a recently used applications list or menu somewhere, at least as an option for the panel <sarcasm>like what they have in the more advanced desktop environments</sarcasm>. But Gnome still doesn't have that although (IMHO) it is something that would clearly increase desktop usability and ease of use.

Instead Gnome has preferred to develop and intergrate new nonnecessary toys like Gnome screensaver that many people also find inferior to older Xscreensaver (that has already been there for ages). Gnome screensaver doesn't allow to use all Xscreensaver modules. And even if it does, it often doesn't allow one to tweak the individual screensaver module settings unlike the older, and more adavanced, Xscreensaver does.

I've learned to install lots of third party applications like open-terminal-here extension for Nautilus, to make Gnome easier and more effective to use for me. But I don't see why some of those small but important things couldn't be available at least as options in the official Gnome - to justify Gnome's great hunger for my system resources better.

But - I still use Gnome - so I suppose that I'm not completely unhappy. ;)

RE: Too resource hungry and slow
by r3m0t (1.32) on Sat 4th Aug 2007 11:52 UTC in reply to "Too resource hungry and slow"
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You probably don't want to use a "most recently used" or "most often used" list. It's unstable - you get no muscle memory.

Instead, take 3 minutes out of using your computer to make a few launchers and put them on your panel. Then, you'll always know where they are.

Myself, I prefer Launchpad - you don't need to create a keyboard shortcut for an app, just press your global hotkey (I set aside one of the "extra" keyboard buttons), type, and press enter.

Too resource hungry and slow
by makkus (2.13) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 08:10 UTC
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I find that replacing Beagle with Tracker (0.6 is excellent) solves a lot of the resource problems for me... In memory, harddisk and processing power (Beagle sometimes generated gigabytes of log files in a single day...)

RE: Too resource hungry and slow
by irbis (2.92) on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 19:22 UTC in reply to "Too resource hungry and slow"
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"I find that replacing Beagle with Tracker (0.6 is excellent) solves a lot of the resource problems for me"

Yeah, I know. I've done that already. Tracker is great - and the fat Beagle should be put on a strict diet... But despite not using Beagle Gnome is still quite a resource hog, especially if you try to use it on an older PC, and when compared to XFCE4, for example.

Besides, Gnome panels seem to have constant, though not big, stability problems. Quite many times, if I, for example, try to add or remove some Gnome panel extras, the whole panel may die and/or lots of other stuff disappears from the panels (and I have to add those panel items, like the Gnome menu bar, again by hand). Quite frustrating, although it doesn't happen too often. I'm not sure where the bugs are, in Gnome itself, or in the extra panel addons? Anyway, I could understand if some exotic panel addon would have serious bugs and was unstable in itself, but the whole panel and desktop environment shouldn't go crazy because of some buggy extra panel plugin, and should be able to handle possible bugs in extra software better - if that's where the bugs are.

Edited 2007-08-03 19:32