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Just buy XBox or PS if it bothers you that much. And games run smoother too. And it will solve the problem if you're not using Windows, too.

Or, spend no money at all and stick with XP!

Just buy XBox or PS if it bothers you that much.

Or read books instead. Trust me, you'll be much better off.

wut dat?!11 dat da pieces of paper stuck togther n shit? booooriiing!!1


Most people have a hard time paying attention to notices posted on walls much less sit and read a 300 page book.

I know, I work at a library. It's pretty sad.

I use to game a lot on my PCs... But I stopped keeping up with the upgrade curve a few years back and mostly use my ps2 slim and dreamcast now. Works quite well actually.

I fear for the future. All of the gaming addicts and other useless techno-degenerates will be classified as disabled and people who decided to read a book and find a job will end up paying for their RAM and pizza delivery.

Of course there are plenty of ambitious and productive people who enjoy some gaming as a stress-reliever. But two of my college roommates ended up doing nothing but gaming and flunked out. They didn't go to class, didn't do any homework, and didn't show up for exams. All they wanted from life was to play Counterstrike (or whatever).

They're smart people (this was Carnegie Mellon, not some party school), but I just don't know how they're going to make it. Many of my friends put all sorts of wacky chemicals in their brains, yet it was the gamers that couldn't deal with reality.

"But two of my college roommates ended up doing nothing but gaming and flunked out."

Hey, they can alway become "cyberathletes" and compete in the "cyberolympics". Everyone knows playing computer games is a sport just like chess, monopoly and strip poker. Oh wait...

That is realy a question of taste. Not everyone likes simplistic console games. PC gamers usually prefer complex games and there are hardly any Playstation or Nintendo games that are complex.

Then there are the first person shooter players who don't want to use gamepads.

The last console game that i liked was "Street Fighter 2" and i did had a bunch of consoles (SNES, PS, PS2) but it was always the same. After about a month i didn't use them anymore and played pc games instead.

>> if other OS's had DirectX

But THE FACT is that they don't have it.

>> our car has the best speed because it has tires and yours dont

Again - stating the fact

It's not just Quake 3. I play Quake 1 like an addict, but on Vista with a fairly decent system (4.6 experience rating, only the 2 gigs of RAM holding me back), my framerate fluctuates from 99 fps to 12 fps on a regular basis. The problem is the OpenGL support in the drivers. Both ATI and NVidia said they were going for stability at this point, which is fine and there, but doesn't do us any good. Stable at 15 fps isn't exactly playable. This isn't Microsofts problem so much, they rewrote the driver framework to work better, and as a consequence the manufacturers have to rewrite their drivers. In 6 months to a year we will probably be thankful, but for right now I can't play Quake.

Unfortunatly, those of us who have upgraded to Vista are in a small minority right now, and going by the video card manufacturers we aren't large enough for them to support well when most people still use XP. In a year or so, when plenty of people have bought PC's with Vista, we can expect to see them to improve things.

I can't even remember when i last saw an Gameport device... must have been somewhat around 2000.

yes, nvidia drivers

get them here

http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html

however, this does not change the fact that microsoft has deliberately sabotaged OpenGL performance in Vista.

I feel sorry for the cabbages who think Vista is the dogs bollocks, they are going to spend their hard earned cash on something that will put them off buying from microsoft in the future.

"I feel sorry for the cabbages who think Vista is the dogs bollocks, they are going to spend their hard earned cash on something that will put them off buying from microsoft in the future."

Or, if you're feeling particularly sarcastic, I guess you could say: "money well spent"

Looks like you fell victim to the FUD from the opengl guys.

Read this when it's back online: http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=380046

"Looks like you fell victim to the FUD from the opengl guys."

Its not like Nvidia is being sued or anything.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070206-8784.html

The benchmarks that you see run are interesting. The applications run well but the 01 run slower. Often a lot slower.

You see particular games being touted depending on whether the site is showing of how good or bad the it is under Vista.

The opengl games see to suffer the most. some up to 30-40% for both cards.

Compatibility is evident in that some games wont play or have glitches.

Heh, you beat me to it.

Most of the games I play are OpenGL, so it seems like the better gaming platform for me is Linux, which plays them all as flawlessly.

Never thought I'd see that day.