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There are a lot of other pics of Novell's booth online (check newsforge), so we didn't take any. Also, their booth was so big, that it was almost impossible to capture any meaningful portion of it in a single frame...

I would have taken a picture of Nat Friedman and an interview if he hadn't had such a busy schedule that made it impossible to do so. Most of our pictures were people-oriented as you saw rather than generic pictures of booths.

Edited 2006-08-17 00:23

Thanks for answering. I thought you may have forgotten to upload it or something.

Sun was NOT there (at least I didn't see it, neither it's listed in the exhibitor's list). OpenSolaris was represented by Ben, who is an enthusiast.

And I think you are too harsh on BSD being there. I mean, come on, even Apple was there. Should we rename it AppleWorld then? Everything that interests Linux professionals, usually it has something to do with Unix -- and even Windows up to some level--, so all these booths were relevant.

unixworld would be a cool name

And I think you are too harsh on BSD being there. I mean, come on, even Apple was there. Should we rename it AppleWorld then?

How exactly was I too harsh on BSD? If anything, you support my point that it should be called UnixWorld.

Novell is about the only company that is making a last ditch effort on the desktop.

So I guess you never heard of Canonical, Linspire, and Xandros, then? Never mind that Novell is finally succeeding where they failed (with UNIX) ten, fifteen years ago.

For someone implying a claim to having his/her finger on the Linux pulse, that's very odd.

Very odd indeed.

So I guess you never heard of Canonical, Linspire, and Xandros, then? Never mind that Novell is finally succeeding where they failed (with UNIX) ten, fifteen years ago.

Let's see. We have Canonical giving away Ubuntu, and a couple smalltime players like Linspire and Xandros that are about as relevant as a one man show like Mephis.

And how exactly is Novell succeeding? Are you somehow privy to some new info about their desktop efforts being a money maker now?

You should probably talk to RedHat about how they feel about the Linux desktop. And they're the only relevant player actually making money off of actually selling Linux.

//You should probably talk to RedHat about how they feel about the Linux desktop. And they're the only relevant player actually making money off of actually selling Linux.//

That is a very strange concept you have there.

RedHat don't make money "actually selling Linux". One can after all get RedHat-equivalent software from Whitebox or CentOS.

RedHat make money from selling services and support for their Linux product.

So to do Novell. Not long ago Novell were in a nosedive. Retrenchments. The Linux services division was one of the few making money, AFAIK. With the release of Suse 10.1 this is reportedly getting better and better all the time.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/cf?s=NOVL&annual
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=NOVL&annual
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=NOVL&annual

That is a very strange concept you have there.

RedHat don't make money "actually selling Linux". One can after all get RedHat-equivalent software from Whitebox or CentOS.

RedHat make money from selling services and support for their Linux product.

RedHat sells licenses as well as service and support. RedHat executives have come out time and time again to say that servers are where they are making money.


So to do Novell. Not long ago Novell were in a nosedive. Retrenchments. The Linux services division was one of the few making money, AFAIK. With the release of Suse 10.1 this is reportedly getting better and better all the time.

And this is related to the desktop how? You think they're actually getting a ROI for the desktops they sell?

LinuxWorld in the summer is always at the same place: Moscone North, San Francisco.

@Eug : actually, last year it was on moscone west. ;-)

and i do agree, it was much less,.. busy,.. this year then last.

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I enjoyed the novell (mainly the SLED 10 demos) more then anything as well.. wait.. i lied.. i LOVED the moto peeps and the DDR game,.. it was one of my highlights.. got me a 101K score too, almost got that japanese phone. but alas i lost by about 21K, hehe...
Dont know his name, so i'll call him 'thick guy' at the fedora stand, he insulted me like twice when i was wondering by, said 'download the bittorrent tis much faster then anything' as im thinking 'not faster then me grabbing a dvd, but kthnx'..

the opensolaris was a very nice guy, but in person im quite short on words, so i just said thank you for the demo cd and wondered away while the gf appoligized for me being anti-social..

did i mention i loved the DDR Moto game? i could keep goin on about things, but i'll end there.. hehe.. now to sort thru my 50+ CD's of demo stuff,..

p.s. to the fedora guy, sorry, i actually dont have internet at home for a few weeks, and havent used fc5 yet, so thats why i was liking the cd option, but thanks anyways :-p

also, im a new sled 10 convert from ubuntu, the GF REALLY REALLY likes sled 10,.. and that makes life easier for me as well, being liked by myself as well..

i'll write more later, dont want to turn this too much into a personal blog post.. :-X

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+5 Funny haha

On a more serious note though, I always loved the sound of these shows. It looks like such a neat thing to check out. What does it take to get into one of these shows? I guess it varies from show to show, but I imagine you can get into LinuxWorld by paying an admission fee? I would love to go to a show someday.

It is free if you just go to the exhibition part (not to the conferences) and you pre-register online. If you just show up there out of the blue while the show is ON, they will charge you $70.

And Press/Media (like us) gets free lunch. ;-)

But I never knew till looking at that photo on page 2, that CmdrTaco from Slashdot played the russian computer guy in the James Bond movie Goldeneye!

But I never knew till looking at that photo on page 2, that CmdrTaco from Slashdot played the russian computer guy in the James Bond movie Goldeneye!

Yes, that's why he runs around yelling "I'm invincible!"

PalmOS 5.x requires about 8 MBs of dynamic RAM. PalmOS 4 can run with 4 MBs. ALP requires 64.

Please note that there is an emulator running at all times on ALP, they showed us Bejeweled running unmodified.

>Linux hype is over? Linux is dying? Netcraft confirms it?

Just speculating (I wasn't there), but I'd say that Linux "hype" is, indeed, dying. Which is OK. I would hazard a guess that maybe the vendors and attendees are more serious and down to business than before. I also suspect that Linux has reached "trade show saturation". It seems like every time I turn around there is another Linux trade show in progress.

I'm going to call this part of Linux's maturation process. At age 15, it's just about time, I suppose.

Edited 2006-08-17 16:58

A new point release every month? That is some pretty good progress. Looking forward to downloading them all.

The booth vanished for the mortals this year. Instead, Red Hat sent a special ninjas squad to be around other booths for a "secret" mission. For example, one of them managed to demonstrate Xen on Dell booth. In other word, Red Hat is everywhere .

Edited 2006-08-17 07:51