Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Tue 25th Apr 2006 20:39 UTC, submitted by jayson.knight
Internet Explorer "This evening we released IE7 Beta 2. This release is not the preview or the update to the preview, but the real Beta 2 of IE7 for Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows XP 64-bit Edition. Simply: please try it."
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Simply: please try it.
by Drune (2.76) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 20:56 UTC
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try it?! no thanks ;)

Still not quite up to what I'd call BETA.
by deathshadow (2.44) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:08 UTC
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Well, if you unpack the .exe, delete the subdirectory, and use the registry fix for stand-alone operation, you can still try it out without screwing up your existing install.
http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2005/12/28/434132.aspx

Important for a web coder like myself who NEEDS both browsers installed and running for site compatability testing.

Interface seems a bit cleaner than previous incarnation, still has the wierd main menu below the address bar thing going on (making the UI inconsistant with every other window - must be a 'vista' thing)

Rendering wise it still seems a lot of tags that worked properly in IE6 now no longer function even CLOSE to correctly (like CSS padding an anchor tag puts the bounding box in the wrong place) which on a positive note means they really DID start over from scratch - but on the downside makes it even LESS standards compliant...

What a joke. Beta... Beta 2 at that... More like what I'd call an Alpha.

But then it seems a LOT of things are throwing around the word Beta, to the point I'm tempted to quote Inigo Montoya.

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"still has the wierd main menu below the address bar thing going on (making the UI inconsistant with every other window - must be a 'vista' thing)"

It's more of a "Internet Explorer was screwed up and we didn't want to dix it properly" thing.

Read here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/05/26/422103.aspx

Completely Unusable Here
by jayson.knight (3.04) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:11 UTC
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I'm no IE fan, but I do like some of the things I've seen in the earlier IE7 releases...that is, until I installed this one. It pegs my processor at 100$ when viewing any web page and has to be zapped from task manager to shut it down. I'm sure it's environmental, anyone else having this issue? Very disappointing.

Also, the IE team has opened up their bug db to the general public: https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=136

RE: Completely Unusable Here
by poundsmack (3.32) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:12 UTC in reply to "Completely Unusable Here"
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wow 100$ you say.... ;) only made mine go to 100% ;)

RE[2]: Completely Unusable Here
by jayson.knight (3.04) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Completely Unusable Here"
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Yeah I fat fingered the % :-P. OSNews, what happened to editing comments? No edit button seen here...

RE: Completely Unusable Here
by jayson.knight (3.04) on Fri 28th Apr 2006 13:49 UTC in reply to "Completely Unusable Here"
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For anyone still reading this thread, the culprit was the IE Dev Toolbar (older version). Uninstalling it fixed my processor peg issue.

Which IE 7 Beta 2 is this?
by snozzberry (3.04) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:27 UTC
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The IE 7 Beta 2 that was released at the beginning of the year, the IE 7 Beta 2 that was released in March to coincide with the Vegas event, or the one they released today after telling all of the feedback members they were wasting their time to mention any incorrectly implemented web standards?

I'll install it on my test box, but I'm already prepared to be disappointed. To sum it up for those who haven't DLed it yet:

CSS/HTML support for web standards is virtually unimproved from IE 6. A few CSS operators are now supported, some infamous box model miscalculations are fixed, and a few flickery weirdnesses are gone. However, on the issue of supporting web standards left out of IE 6, it's not fixed.

Microsoft has repeatedly gone on record with us in the feedback area to say they're irritated with people who expect a major revision release to have, well, a level of support comparable to all other browsers two years ago or longer, and that they'll consider it for IE 8. These are their words, not mine.

Not bad...
by BlackTiger (1.88) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:50 UTC
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100% CPU?!?! Not true. ~30%

100MB of RAM? True! Now: 81MB (61MB VM mem).
Cool!

Anyway, looks nice. But FF still better! As TabletPC user I want to see:
- "Favorities" on right side, instead of stupid left side
- "Grab and Drag" functionality instead of "aiming scroll bar"

Also I need "AdBlock" functionality in IE.

Edited 2006-04-25 21:51

RE: Not bad...
by suryad (2.88) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:52 UTC in reply to "Not bad..."
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Maybe they will have a plugin come out to deal with that. THey already have a plugin site up.

RE: Not bad...
by Cass (1.8) on Thu 27th Apr 2006 01:49 UTC in reply to "Not bad..."
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Anyway, looks nice. But FF still better! As TabletPC user I want to see:
- "Favorities" on right side, instead of stupid left side

hey thats actually a good ergonomic point, MS why on tablet PC is it on the left? (is Big Bill a left hander)

I've been using IE7
by dylansmrjones (2.6) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 22:54 UTC
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and to me it doesn't feel like it's really getting better. It's not as bad as sappyvcv claims, but it's not exactly the best browser. The only good thing is tabs, and the UI sort of ruins the joy of that.

RE: I've been using IE7
by sappyvcv (2.36) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 23:40 UTC in reply to "I've been using IE7"
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Woahwoahwoah, why bring me into this?!

Last version I tried I installed on a very clean and new copy of XP Pro w/SP2 (at work), a brand new copy of XP MCE (laptop) and an old old copy of XP pro (my main desktop). They all had the same issues. Resizing caused a bunchy of problems in the UI (after I customized the buttons at least), which may have been because I use a third-party theme, but it's still a bug, or bugs.

The UI is very MEH.

I don't remember offhand, but I had a lot of other issues.

I'll keep an open-mind about it, and try this beta at work maybe, but I'm not expecting much. I'd say that I'm happy that they're fixing some old bugs and improving the CSS support a little, to make my life easier at work, but it's not true. It'll just make my life harder of course, having to support both.

v My MAin
by CVDpr (-0.04) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 22:56 UTC
RE: My MAin
by ThawkTH (3.36) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 23:21 UTC in reply to "My MAin"
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Firefox - 7 tabs open = 43mb

Ooooh! So terrible. Especially for a FREE app. Free in more ways than one, mind you. Free from vendor lockin, any one platform, etc etc etc.

The real world, with it's millions of colors, can scare one so used to b&w.

RE[2]: My MAin
by sappyvcv (2.36) on Tue 25th Apr 2006 23:41 UTC in reply to "RE: My MAin"
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Try installing more than a few extensions and keeping it open for a while. That'll change fast.

Just because it's "Free", doesn't excuse it from anything.

RE[3]: My MAin
by CVDpr (-0.04) on Wed 26th Apr 2006 01:08 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: My MAin"
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Yep you are right my friend...

RE[3]: My MAin
by angryrobot (3.08) on Wed 26th Apr 2006 13:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: My MAin"
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Um...I guess your mileage may vary, but I've got 7 tabs open right now in Firefox, with Talkback, Adblock, Colorzilla, Web Developer, HTML Validator, Reveal, XPather, and Adblock Filterset Updater extensions installed, and I only see ~55MB.

Maybe it's the extensions you use...I don't know. Either that, or, judging from your posting history, you really have a grudge against Firefox and Linux for some reason.

RE[4]: My MAin
by sappyvcv (2.36) on Wed 26th Apr 2006 15:09 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: My MAin"
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Dude, look around the web. Tons and tons of people have problems with memory usage.

And yes, it is certain extensions that are worse than others. Also, if you disabled or limited the new fastback cache system, that'll help keep down memory usage.

If you think I have a grudge against Firefox, that's your own problem, but I am speaking the truth. I use Firefox all the team, and there are a few extensions I use that are invaluable to me for stuff at work. But I am honest about it's flaws.

A very good product: try it.
by TBPrince (3) on Wed 26th Apr 2006 00:56 UTC
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Just installed it on my laptop and checking it. I have to say I'm using it to write this comment. Let me just said that for first time in 2-3 years Maxthon is not my "default browser" anymore.

IE7 BETA 2 is *extremely* lighweight. Tabs preview page is *extremely* useful, expecially when many tabs are opened (6-7+). It is *very* fast. And it's just a BETA...

Other than that (and beside standards-compliance), I was using Maxthon which uses IE6 engine so revolutions here.

I suggest that Windows users try it: you won't be disappointed.

Wow!
by samad (3.24) on Wed 26th Apr 2006 06:40 UTC
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Actually... *yawn*

Italics?
by danwarne (1.5) on Wed 26th Apr 2006 22:10 UTC
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Why is the text on soooo many web pages in italics under IE7? I've checked the code of some of these pages and it's not due to non-closed [i] tags....