Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Mar 2006 18:07 UTC
Internet Explorer Microsoft has acknowledged that a planned update to the way Internet Explorer renders multimedia on Web pages could cause some serious problems, and promised to give developers an extra two months to modify their pages to ensure a smooth transition. The company was forced to make the changes in response to a patent dispute with Eolas Technologies. The fix would affect the way ActiveX controls are displayed on Web pages, according to experts. If no changes were made, a user would have to 'activate' an ActiveX or Java control before it would be usable. More on IE here.
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Sounds good...
by cb_osn (2.8) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 19:36 UTC
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"If no changes were made, a user would have to 'activate' an ActiveX or Java control before it would be usable."

This sounds like an upgrade to me. Where can I get it?

RE: Sounds good...
by pr0c (1.35) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 20:03 UTC in reply to "Sounds good..."
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Where can I get it?

99% sure it is on WindowsUpdate..

if I were Microsoft
by anyweb (2.84) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 19:43 UTC
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i'd completely disable ActiveX by default on all IE browsers, via windowsupdate.

Windows Vista, if it is 'secure' will disable access to active X completely, at least I hope it will

Isn't activeX the main conduit between Internet Explorer and getting your windows box own3d ? spyware would have a hard time owning windows boxes if activeX was put where it should be, in the recycle bin.

you don't want your brand new windows box to look like this do you ? http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1025

please disable ActiveX users !!!

or use a web browser that doesnt offer that way in...

cheers
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RE: if I were Microsoft
by DrillSgt (2.64) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 23:20 UTC in reply to "if I were Microsoft"
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That user purposely installed all those apps and search bars. Probably for the purpose of spreading the FUD. It is NOT possible for them to install themselves without user interaction, so sorry, I don't buy it one bit.

RE[2]: if I were Microsoft
by deathshadow (2.44) on Thu 30th Mar 2006 01:39 UTC in reply to "RE: if I were Microsoft"
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>> That user purposely installed all those apps and search bars.

Which is the problem right there. The average user isn't SMART ENOUGH or WILLING TO LEARN the proper response when presented with the classic "Run this ____" box. Hell, I know people I consider smart enough who STILL make the wrong choice there 99.99% of the time - it's bad browsing habits borne of apathy, ignorance, and just plain wishful thinking.

RE[2]: if I were Microsoft
by NelsonN (1.8) on Thu 30th Mar 2006 21:44 UTC in reply to "RE: if I were Microsoft"
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I have seen it, all those bars and the pop-ups that go with them. I make money from these poor saps, but when they come knocking on my door for the second, third, and fourth time, I stop explaining to them that they have to learn to be careful and learn how to use their computers. It goes in one ear and out the other.

RE[2]: if I were Microsoft
by Clinton (2.64) on Fri 31st Mar 2006 03:30 UTC in reply to "RE: if I were Microsoft"
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None the less, ActiveX is still a lame technology and should be done away with. I don't feel like telling you all the reasons behind its lameness in this post, but you are welcome to use Google to do all the research you want on the subject.

ActiveX is unsafe at any speed
by KenJackson (3.48) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 20:18 UTC
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The fix would affect the way ActiveX controls are displayed on Web pages...

I think ActiveX is insecure by design and shouldn't be trusted. ActiveX objects contain actual executable code which IE can download and execute, possibly without the user's knowledge. There are lots of safeguards to avoid abuse, but obviously it is being abused anyway.

The safe thing is to not allow ActiveX to have control. The easiest way to do that is to never use IE.

RE: ActiveX is unsafe at any speed
by punkcoder (1.71) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 21:34 UTC in reply to "ActiveX is unsafe at any speed"
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It's not like every ActiveX control ever made is some malicious application. I've used a lot that come in handy. Unfortunately it's been abused to the point where everyone thinks you can't make anything helpful with it.

RE[2]: ActiveX is unsafe at any speed
by KenJackson (3.48) on Wed 29th Mar 2006 21:49 UTC in reply to "RE: ActiveX is unsafe at any speed"
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It's not like every ActiveX control ever made is some malicious application.

True, but as you further point out, it's been abused.

Even Microsoft references "malicious code" in an increasingly common attack where a page filled with several ActiveX controls tries to frustrate you into always trusting the publisher—after which malicious code is delivered in the last control.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/secnews/articles/itprovie...

This does not build confidence.

example html
by whome (1.6) on Fri 31st Mar 2006 06:21 UTC
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I did not find info about the what is this change we must do to html pages. Examples avail how should embed/object tags be written for flash and java applets?

found it
by whome (1.6) on Fri 31st Mar 2006 06:32 UTC
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