Linked by editor on Mon 16th May 2005 23:05 UTC
Multimedia, AV You know what's really laughable? When you visit launch.yahoo.com with Firefox and tells you that you need Netscape 4.7 to view its music videos, even if Firefox is perfectly capable of doing so! And when you open a bug report ticket with them, you get canned messages how to make your IE work with their service! It stinks! Therefore, here is a quick how-to on how to rip down their music wmv/asf videos and save them on your hard disk to view with the player of your choice. In fact, their videos are streamed in QVGA, making them an excellent choice for Pocket PCs that are used as multimedia devices too.
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Yahoo!!
by Ulala on Mon 16th May 2005 23:12 UTC

Don't upset da girl in arms! :-)

lauch sux
by keneida on Mon 16th May 2005 23:28 UTC

launch really sux with that. theyre not doing anything to support other browsers

Linux and Firefox
by Xchequer on Mon 16th May 2005 23:34 UTC

Using firefox with the "Play Launch" extension on fedora 3 with the Mplayer plugin I can watch the videos just fine. Tried the extension a couple of weeks ago and it works great. I'm not sure if it works with the Windows version of Firefox.

ummmm
by KRiSX on Mon 16th May 2005 23:39 UTC

it doesn't work... i get a runtime error on the script

RE: Linux and Firefox
by Jon on Mon 16th May 2005 23:40 UTC

no, it's not supported on windows.
http://gc-group.dk/play-launch/
The author of the extension says "go bug yahoo" too.

ummmmm pt 2
by KRiSX on Mon 16th May 2005 23:46 UTC

mmm ignore previous post... i think its a problem at my end... i can't even play videos through IE.. think its a proxy problem

v Yay for high journalistic standards
by Anonymous on Mon 16th May 2005 23:56 UTC
Nasty workaround
by Darius on Tue 17th May 2005 00:01 UTC

It would be better if this just worked in Firefox. I understand that it's more Yahoo's fault that this doesn't work, but the reason why I bring this up is to illustrate why more people aren't using Firefox, and by extension, Linux - it's because of little things like this that just don't work well without a lot of dicking around with user agents, extensions, vbscripts, etc.
Sure, you would think "Ahhh, who gives a shit if this works or not?" But some people really do. I have a friend who swears by Launch, mainly because it comes free with her SBC DSL subscription. She even likes it better than my XM radio, even though it's not portable.

v Re: Yay for high journalistic standards
by Anonymous on Tue 17th May 2005 00:01 UTC
Many websites do this
by lilax on Tue 17th May 2005 00:09 UTC

What a pain, especially when they say their site works with Netscape. The last website that said FireFox was not supported was staterbros.com. What is weird, is that it works fine on Linux, but using FF in XP will not work.

And then there's Amazon not supporting the ability to listen to their music samples on Linux.

Safari
by Morgan on Tue 17th May 2005 00:50 UTC

I get this error message in Safari:

We're sorry, but you must use Netscape 4.7x to use this application on a Macintosh. Download NOW. Please use the following error code when writing to Yahoo! Help. (Error Code: 4)

Sorry, but I'm not installing Netscape, even in OS 9 Classic. I guess I'll have to do without. Of course, I don't listen to "Top 100" formula music anyway, however I'm sure many Mac users do and Yahoo is missing out on potential ad revenues.

Have you tried User Agent Switcher
by rspickles on Tue 17th May 2005 01:06 UTC

I have the extension "User Agent Switcher" and when it is turned on to telling the host site that I am running IE many sites work just fine that cannot handle FF. This Yahoo service seems to work as well for me when FF tell Yahoo that it is IE. I cannot be sure as I do not have Windows Media Player on this Win2k computer. However it does stop giving me error messages about the browser and tell me that I don't have WMP when FF declares itself to be IE on XP.
This has been a problem on a hand full of sites. FF does not work if it declares itself as FF but is it lies to the site and declares itself IE then all is well and everything on that site works just fine. Somehow I don't think this is a FF problem.

RE: Have you tried User Agent Switcher
by Jon on Tue 17th May 2005 01:10 UTC

Huh, that might be new, because in the past changing the user agent DID NOT work with Launch, because they were using activex controls. Now, it seems to work, but still...

...
by Chris on Tue 17th May 2005 01:10 UTC

How about a txt with the location of these video downloads... Some of us don't have anything to run vb scripts...

RE: ...
by Jon on Tue 17th May 2005 01:14 UTC

there are thousands of these videos, I don't think anyone will sit down and write these and extracting them with a script is not really that simple. ;)

Does this work for http://contender.tv.yahoo.com ?
by Anonymous on Tue 17th May 2005 01:23 UTC

I love the show contender but can't seem to get them to play in ff in linux. The commerical will play with the mplayer mozilla plugin but then nothing. And when I go to it's setup it says I have wmp, quicktime, realplayer, but none work.

Even on the windows side you can't go fullscreen except while in IE. In FF the options for pause, slider, fullscreen don't appear.

But if I can grab them in linux and watch fullscreen, that would be great.

I'll try in a bit, but if anyone can show me any method, I'd appreciate it.

I often hear complaints about streaming video in FF
by Anonymous on Tue 17th May 2005 04:47 UTC

Based on what I have seen FF forums and personal experience, I think the handling of streaming video is one of the top complaints about Firefox. The FF community needs to improve the situation because mainstream users don't put up with this kind of technical mumbo jumbo. Even if some obscure solutions already exist, they don't know about them, and others are too complicated for the mainstream user to understand.

Multimedia keys to skip commercials
by konkat on Tue 17th May 2005 05:03 UTC

Launch isn't bad for videos. There's some metal videos on their site that I haven't seen elsewhere. Interesting thing about Launch, and a few other sites that use the Windows Media Player is that I can use the multimedia keys on my keyboard to skip commercials even if the player has toolbars hidden/disabled.

Yahoo! just plain sucks
by amiroff on Tue 17th May 2005 05:03 UTC

<rant>I am sorry but Yahoo has a worst support I've ever seen on any big portal nowadays. They have a pleanty disinformation on Yahoo about some of the countries (including mine), and despite of thousands of email sent to them with complaints they are sending the same mail template to everyone and not really doing anything about the problem.

Same on the tech side. I don't remember a meaningfull feedback from Yahoo support employee in any way. All they write is just 2 simple line which tell abolutely nothing. Wake up, firefox is the only browser I can trust and I love nowadays, fix this before it's too late.</rant>

Ya, I agree with the above comments about just give us a freaking text file if you feel the need to share this with other people. I mean even if my browser doesn't work, if I sit down and spend 20 minutes I can usually dig out the url, and by then, IT HAD BETTER NOT SUCK. Usually it does though, but they were so sure it was going to get copied and not get credit, they had to hide it in embedded. Come on. Just give a link to mov, mpg, avi, mvp, whatever, we can watch it as it downloads. Why do I even need a plugin to watch this stuff? Yes, to protect their ownership of it. Well once it is in my head, I have NEWS for you. You don't own it anymore. If you think you do, you better come put a bullet in my head. If I like it ya I may buy it 4 or 5 times, and after that, yes I will "pirate" it over and over and over. There is only so much "tolerance" you can show, when you are not the bad guy in the first place. Also, when you've spent over $250 on a certain thing and they still think you are not entitled to listen to it and just need to go buy another one. HAHA

Yuck!
by Plop Culture on Tue 17th May 2005 07:55 UTC

Why would anyone want to watch that pop crap for anyways? Oh well. Thanks anyways for writing the script for everyone to use!

@Plop Culture
by Someone on Tue 17th May 2005 08:07 UTC

Actually there's lots of good indie/alternative stuff hidden at Yahoo Launch, if you care to look for it...

Mencoder also works
by Timmayh on Tue 17th May 2005 08:41 UTC

I download streaming stuff with Mencoder. All you have to do is find the download link in the page source (usually mms://something) and then just do:

mencoder "address" -ovc copy -oac copy -o outfile.avi

It's a bit hacky, but the hidden bonus is that the resulting file does not skip at all. Mencoder load the entire clip frame by frame even if you are on a slow and laggy link.

To all the MPlayer people: You guys are amazing! Keep it up.

"Play Launch"
by keneida on Tue 17th May 2005 08:52 UTC

its really cool, thnx Xchequer for info. Its only bad that it does not work with yahoo radio

Windows users
by Tyr on Tue 17th May 2005 10:47 UTC

I just use "StreamBox VCR Suite", apparently you can't use this legally anymore (in the US) I'm pretty sure fair use laws in Belgium have got me covered though.

For a good overview of stream ripping software for windows check out http://emoney.al.ru/save-streaming-video-and-audio-to-HD/saving-str...

I like how the article is posted anonymously, but how the author refers to France. I wonder which editor would know about French laws ;-)

Greasemonkey script
by Anonymous on Tue 17th May 2005 11:55 UTC

There is a Firefox Greasemonkey script for Yahoo launch that works really nicely - http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScripts

Re: Mencoder also works
by zerblat on Tue 17th May 2005 12:54 UTC

Will that transcode the stream or does it just save it in the same format as the stream? You can also use mplayer:

mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile <filename> <url>

Also, the -playlist flag is very useful when the url points to a playlist file. Here's more info: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_Streams_With_MPlayer

Thanks
by Happy User on Tue 17th May 2005 15:59 UTC

Great Article very useful.
Thanks

Great Script! Thanks!!!
by sasch on Tue 17th May 2005 17:41 UTC

this "video-tool" works great, thank you, thank you, thank you!
:-)

www.launch.com works with firefox with this extension
by Osho on Tue 17th May 2005 18:37 UTC

Hi,

There is an excellent extension specifically to solve the Firefox and www.launch.com. It is at

http://gc-group.dk/play-launch/

This works on Linux only. I have used it and it makes the launch site "just work".

I did not write the extension btw. I am just a happy user.

Osho

Re: Does this work for http://contender.tv.yahoo.com ?
by Osho on Tue 17th May 2005 18:40 UTC

I have the same issue. The issue is with mplayerplug-in I think. I remember there was some discussion on mplayerplug-in-devel mailing list where the same problem (for a differnet site) was reported and it was fixed. Maybe you can try sending an email to that mailing list.

Osho

These directions make no sence
by XDelusion on Wed 18th May 2005 00:55 UTC

So how about a tutorial for this for step 2 - 3?

Amazon?
by lilax on Wed 18th May 2005 02:33 UTC

Is there a FF extension or a greasemonkey script that will allow me to listen to music samples at Amazon? There's the windows and real player samples, but with real player it has more to do with a couple of codecs that restricts listening.

Great trick, I downloaded few videos for fun. I would have loved to be able to watch them with my Palm T5 (without needing to buy another player). But definitly Palm doesn't care to provide multimedia support to its customers. By the way, the Yahoo FAQ tells they can't sell videos, it doesn't really tell it's illegal to copy them (can it be illegal to make private copy of free content?): http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/launch/videos/videos-09.html

Error
by Mofano on Wed 18th May 2005 19:37 UTC

---------------------------
Windows Script Host
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Script:E:DownloadsgetYahooMusicUrlsgetYahooMusicUrls.vbs
Line :55
Char :1
Error :Object required: ''
Code :800A01A8
Source:Microsoft VBScript runtime error

---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

I'm no programmer but this error popped up.

RE: Error
by Jon on Thu 19th May 2005 01:22 UTC

works fine here with XP PRO SP2.

Greasemonkey?
by macz on Thu 19th May 2005 18:46 UTC

I would imagine that you could http://greasmonkey.mozdev.org a filter that will render the page in situ with the correct url's for clikcing.

doesn't work with os x
by Harri on Fri 20th May 2005 22:13 UTC

Macintosh


• Mac OS 8.5 to 9.x
• At least 200MHz PowerPC or better (iMac OK)
• At least 96MB RAM; 64MB dedicated to Netscape
• Netscape Navigator 4.5 to 4.78
• Windows Media Player 10

one problem there's no wmp 10 for mac os 8.5 - 9.2.2 not even for mac os x (netscape 4.xx doesn't work with mac os x)

Launch links without VBS
by konkat on Sat 21st May 2005 01:48 UTC

http://www.strix.org.uk/misc/launch.yahoo/launch_streams.php
Found this site for those who can't run the VBS script or like me couldn't figure out what to give it.

It works realy great!.
by Ghost Surfer on Thu 26th May 2005 22:04 UTC

Thanks for the tool.Now i can watch the movies even when i am not online when i want to.It works nice with windows XP fo sure!.