Linked by Phil Hollenback on Fri 15th Apr 2005 04:51 UTC
General Unix This is a report on the second day of USENIX 2005. You might want to start with my report on day one. Day two started off a bit slowly. Oh wait, actually I started off a bit slowly. That could have been from the margaritas last night at La Casa Garcia, a Mexican restaurant a few blocks down the street from the Anaheim Marriott. Good Mexican food is one of the things I miss the most since I moved from California to New York two years ago. Luckily, the food at La Casa Garcia was excellent.
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v I love mexican food!
by taquito on Fri 15th Apr 2005 06:20 UTC
Launchd
by Lumbergh on Fri 15th Apr 2005 07:19 UTC

I'm assuming that Apple will release this as part of Darwin. Might be something that other Unixes can take a look at.

RE: Launchd
by Phil Hollenback on Fri 15th Apr 2005 08:15 UTC

Yes, I think this will be released as part of Darwin. The presenter did say the next version of Darwin should be released on the same day as Tiger.

launchd
by Evert on Fri 15th Apr 2005 10:39 UTC

launchd is very nice for desktop use, but when i configure a server, i can determine myself which services i need

can it also auto-restart a deamon when it dies?

NFS4
by Evert on Fri 15th Apr 2005 10:41 UTC

NFS4 sounds very interesting, especially the firewall traversal and better locking mechanism. it could become a replacement for samba if there would be a good linux and windows implementation

IDA Pro
by tobaccofarm on Fri 15th Apr 2005 11:45 UTC

Would be nice to see IDA Pro disassembler for Linux soon.

Extended Attribute support
by Darren Moffat on Fri 15th Apr 2005 20:09 UTC

Solaris 9 already had support for extended attributes in cp/mv/tar/cpio using the -@ flag. I wonder if this is compatible with what MacOS X has done.

Very entertaining article
by DeadFish Man on Fri 15th Apr 2005 20:50 UTC

I'm enjoying this USENIX 2005 series. Keep them coming.

Hint, Eugenia: Please cut at least half of those Ubuntu and Linspire reviews and look for more articles like this. I'll be happy to give you a few more page views this way... :-)

Cheers

launchd and other comments
by Phil Hollenback on Fri 15th Apr 2005 21:25 UTC

Glad to hear you have enjoyed the reports. I'm working on my final day's writeup now. Here are some attempted answers to the other comments:

1. launchd on servers: Yes, Apple is positioning launchd as the replacement for all server init scripts and everything that starts background processes. The comment was that you are uncomfortable allowing the server to start things for you because you determine what services you want. My resonse is that you already allow the server to launch stuff for you via init, inetd, rc scripts, etc. Apple just wants to replace that with a new mechanism. I do understand the automatic starting of services can be a bit scary for the administrator, but I think the benefits of automatic configuration, fewer processes, etc. outweigh the negatives. Note also that each user gets a separate launchd for their per-user processes so the security should be ok.

2. NFSv4 as a replacement for samba: I agree the protocol seeoms like it would work. I think the sticking point will be the same as always: no good free or microsoft-provided nfs client software. The Hummingbird nfs client for windows does have nfsv4 support, but you have to purchase licenses.